Recession putting the dampers on job progression?

Recession putting the dampers on job progression?

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torqueofthedevil

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2,074 posts

177 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Has anyone else got the feeling that the economy is hampering their progression? I'm mid 20's working as a manager for a large construction company. Traditionally in this industry most people tended to change employers to move up the ladder, going for a better role / more money. Now nobody dares to do that so not only will I not benefit from that, none of the older guys are moving on so not opening up any opportunities internally.

Less projects so plenty of staff to fill spaces before me. Less successful projects too so hardly look like we are performing well too!

Do other people see this. I'm just trying to do some courses etc to get ahead.

rog007

5,759 posts

224 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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This is the unfortunate response to challenged times. However, there will always be opportunities for the able and the brave. Good luck!

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

198 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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yep, iv been waiting for 4 years for a space to open in the role above me.

blueg33

35,924 posts

224 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Yep

Recession lost me my new MD role as the company closed all of its operations in England, Scotland and Wales. I was MD for 6 months!

Now all MD vacancies have lots of people with many years experience at that level applying.

So I have changed my focus, working more on Private Equity backed developments on the investment and development sides. Seems I can earn a lot more and have learnt much smile

Construction industry is very tough, its best to hold tight for now and be grateful that you have a job!

John D.

17,872 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Be happy you have a job in the construction industry. I've just got back on site following a few months 'holiday'. Tough times at the moment.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Yes, less people are moving on who wants to be last in? After all you could be first out. Then there is companies employing people a step below where they where in their last job, assuming they became available due to a company restructuring.

Lotus Notes

1,204 posts

191 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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In some cases companies are merging business units, we're moving to a regional structure with a possibility of wider responsibility.

In fact, we are creating positions at the moment.

Otispunkmeyer

12,596 posts

155 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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I'd say so

Now I prematurely bailed out of the grad scheme I was on last year...

Turns out it wasn't a bad decision in the round as the guys who stayed on have come to the end of the grad scheme and are now just floating around the various departments doing further 3 month placements until a proper job turns up! I believe they had 5 grads and 1 job (a job no one really wanted at that) so 4 of them are still doing the rounds, packing their stuff every 3 months to go sit in the corner of the next department probably working on contracts the company hasn't won yet (and may not do). What they'll do when they run out of departments I don't know!!! I suppose they are getting experience, but its limited experience (not staying in a dept long enough to be useful) and its bloody demoralising!

I know not all grad schemes lead to permanent jobs, but the company does want to keep these guys on to make up for the retirees!

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

215 months

Monday 10th October 2011
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torqueofthedevil said:
Do other people see this.
All the people I talk to right now are experiencing this.
I'm not sure courses are going to help in the current envioronment.
Experience, experience and more experience seems to be the key.

Tyson1980

712 posts

156 months

Monday 10th October 2011
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Yes it has in my case. Which is why i am looking elsewhere..!

Had a few interviews, and one of them sounds like a cracking package..

Pity i have to consider moving in all honesty!


TomJS

973 posts

196 months

Monday 10th October 2011
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High quality candidates are ten a penny in the construction world. The trouble is no-one wants them. The few firms doing the hiring are paying recruiters 10%, and are not taking calls from anyone who is not their preferred supplier. Added to this is the fact that any even vaguely competent recruitment firm can find great candidates, ergo no room for those firms like mine - who thrive on hard to fill roles other firms won't touch.

In my mind, I'd suggest you seek to specialise elsewhere asap. My colleague deals with sales personnel of asbestos removal/demolition, and has placed circa £400k's worth of staff this year to date. I'm sure there are other niche areas where business is still taking place; the challenge is finding them.

Good luck!

Tonberry

2,082 posts

192 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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There are definitely positions out there within the industry.

I've just jumped ship from public to private sector, consultancy to consultancy. Major change of pace but change is always welcome.

Look harder.