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I like what they've done, but seeing a 747 (impressive as they are) representing today next to the likes of the VC10 and Concorde.....just looks a bit cack doesn't it?! I mean the VC10 is the best looking airliner in history to me (Comet comes close) and Concorde is in it's own little league.
I know it's only a simple advert, and I know the reasons why we don't need Concorde anymore. But seeing it light the afterburners from the back of that runway on that shot that only lasts a second or so....just feels wrong!
I know it's probably not the case in terms of safety and durability, and I know the world has moved on. We probably have everything we need to have in the sky, but I reckon you'd be forgiven for thinking civil aviation peaked some time ago. Certainly in terms of what excites you anyway.
I know it's only a simple advert, and I know the reasons why we don't need Concorde anymore. But seeing it light the afterburners from the back of that runway on that shot that only lasts a second or so....just feels wrong!
I know it's probably not the case in terms of safety and durability, and I know the world has moved on. We probably have everything we need to have in the sky, but I reckon you'd be forgiven for thinking civil aviation peaked some time ago. Certainly in terms of what excites you anyway.
Kitchski said:
Eric Mc said:
No point in building airliners no one wants to pay to fly in.
Oh I know. Like I say, we have everything we need. It's just a shame we don't need more than what we have. Be nice to push the boundaries again wouldn't it?The only people who can really push boundaries regarding big exopensive technical projects which DON'T have a profit motive are governments. And they only do this type of things when they feel they have to, like in times of war, or when there is some political agenda. And, of course, in a democracy, they ofen need the sustained support of the taxpayer - which in the current climate would be extremely unlikely.
Unlikely ever to happy again I'd say. It's the same with cars; everything is a bit too teutonic these days....a bit too good. For the majority of people that's great, but for sad b
ds like me who can't let go of the past it's not so great!
Difference with cars is that it's much easier and cheaper to move the game on, and theres usually always a market who'll buy into it. But I can't ever see a need again for a hyper-fast aircraft. It'll never be as quick as conference-calling!
ds like me who can't let go of the past it's not so great!Difference with cars is that it's much easier and cheaper to move the game on, and theres usually always a market who'll buy into it. But I can't ever see a need again for a hyper-fast aircraft. It'll never be as quick as conference-calling!
Urban Sports said:
Simpo Two said:
At 1'23" we're in a cockpit and overhauling a Concorde on the right
Are you sure?But then the 747 doesn't fit in...
Edited by Simpo Two on Sunday 16th October 00:32
Eric Mc said:
I reckon we will see a supersonic biz jet within the next ten yaers.
I agree. It's the natural progression in the market for those who's time is valuable enough to warrant a Gulfstream or Global. For everyone else, I foresee airliners getting bigger, more comfortable, quieter and consequently a bit slower. Within limits, I believe passengers would now rather travel more comfortably than more quickly, with the premium market just needing frequency and decent arrival times. However, with the cultural shift that comes with industrial dominance of the emerging Asian markets, who knows. Will be interesting to watch what unfolds within the next couple of generations of civil aircraft.
Simpo Two said:
Urban Sports said:
Simpo Two said:
At 1'23" we're in a cockpit and overhauling a Concorde on the right
Are you sure?But then the 747 doesn't fit in...
Edited by Simpo Two on Sunday 16th October 00:32
ETOPS said:
I agree. It's the natural progression in the market for those who's time is valuable enough to warrant a Gulfstream or Global. For everyone else, I foresee airliners getting bigger, more comfortable, quieter and consequently a bit slower.
Within limits, I believe passengers would now rather travel more comfortably than more quickly, with the premium market just needing frequency and decent arrival times. However, with the cultural shift that comes with industrial dominance of the emerging Asian markets, who knows. Will be interesting to watch what unfolds within the next couple of generations of civil aircraft.
I'm not so sure. The advent of teleconferencing and IT advances means there's less need to circle the globe quickly does it not? If an executive can 'work' on a private business jet, then it doesn't really matter how fast it is, as he or she isn't losing their 'valuable' time, i.e. they can still be productive whilst travelling. I would expect advances in airborne connectivity to allow the execs to be online throughout their journeys.Within limits, I believe passengers would now rather travel more comfortably than more quickly, with the premium market just needing frequency and decent arrival times. However, with the cultural shift that comes with industrial dominance of the emerging Asian markets, who knows. Will be interesting to watch what unfolds within the next couple of generations of civil aircraft.
I just don't think there would be enough demand for a supersonic passenger jet, whether private or not.
johnnywb said:
I'm not so sure. The advent of teleconferencing and IT advances means there's less need to circle the globe quickly does it not? If an executive can 'work' on a private business jet, then it doesn't really matter how fast it is, as he or she isn't losing their 'valuable' time, i.e. they can still be productive whilst travelling. I would expect advances in airborne connectivity to allow the execs to be online throughout their journeys.
I just don't think there would be enough demand for a supersonic passenger jet, whether private or not.
Despite the advent of teleconferencing, at the moment it is no substitute for person to person contact. I just don't think there would be enough demand for a supersonic passenger jet, whether private or not.
Indeed, the reliance on computer interaction has probably done more damage to world business than benefitr as it removes the "human" side of inter business and interpersonal dealings.
Environmental issues are more of a block.
There need not be a massive demand for supersonic biz jets for their construction to be economically viable.
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