RICS - AssocRICS
Discussion
I totally agree with Craig, I recently attended an RICS open day with a view of becoming MRICS, at the time I was a surveyor dealing with Subsidence claims for Insurance companies. My role at the time covered roughly 80% of the requirements for becoming chartered but there were areas that my role ( and company) just did not deal with - the legal side for example, which was outsourced to a legal firm.
The RICS rep listened to my issues and all she could advise was that I left my £30k job and started anew as a trainee surveyor with a Chartered Surveyors. Not particularly useful advice or at all practical.
I've gone MCIOB instead.
back to the OP, if you intend to carry on to full membership (MRICS) then AssocRICS is a stepping stone, if however you are aiming to achieve AssocRICS and stop there, then I wouldn't bother as it counts for very little.
Have a look at jobs that ask for AssocRICS as a requirement, this should give you an idea of how well it is viewed in the workplace.
Cheers
The RICS rep listened to my issues and all she could advise was that I left my £30k job and started anew as a trainee surveyor with a Chartered Surveyors. Not particularly useful advice or at all practical.
I've gone MCIOB instead.
back to the OP, if you intend to carry on to full membership (MRICS) then AssocRICS is a stepping stone, if however you are aiming to achieve AssocRICS and stop there, then I wouldn't bother as it counts for very little.
Have a look at jobs that ask for AssocRICS as a requirement, this should give you an idea of how well it is viewed in the workplace.
Cheers
I completed my APC earlier this year and I'm now MRICS but to be honest I didn't know anything about the AssocRICS qualification. I've had a dig into it and it appears to be a diluted version of the full qualification.
If you want to and it is possible for you to be a fully chartered member then I would go straight for it but it is a lot of work, if the AssocRICS qualification gets you where you want to be then just got for that.
If you want to and it is possible for you to be a fully chartered member then I would go straight for it but it is a lot of work, if the AssocRICS qualification gets you where you want to be then just got for that.
Bungleaio said:
I completed my APC earlier this year and I'm now MRICS but to be honest I didn't know anything about the AssocRICS qualification. I've had a dig into it and it appears to be a diluted version of the full qualification.
If you want to and it is possible for you to be a fully chartered member then I would go straight for it but it is a lot of work, if the AssocRICS qualification gets you where you want to be then just got for that.
Would have to agree really. If the RICS is worth doing at all then I'd personally only aim for M status. I just wouldn't see the point in doing anything less than the full job. But then that's just me........If you want to and it is possible for you to be a fully chartered member then I would go straight for it but it is a lot of work, if the AssocRICS qualification gets you where you want to be then just got for that.
I should've sat my APC around a year back, but have just been putting it off each session - but still keep diary up to date.
I graduated and started work with a Main Contractor, and was told by HR that RICS is very important etc etc - but once you start work you realise it means nothing really.
My career progression has been due to my track record, not letters after my name. Although after a certain level, you are expected to have collected a few fellowships it seems.
I'm getting pissed off with 'RICS Ltd' at the moment - all they seem to do is try and flog me crap I don't want, and only 'need' because they say you need it (CPD) - nice business model...
Back to the original point, I'd always aim for M rather than Assoc if you do want to do it.
I graduated and started work with a Main Contractor, and was told by HR that RICS is very important etc etc - but once you start work you realise it means nothing really.
My career progression has been due to my track record, not letters after my name. Although after a certain level, you are expected to have collected a few fellowships it seems.
I'm getting pissed off with 'RICS Ltd' at the moment - all they seem to do is try and flog me crap I don't want, and only 'need' because they say you need it (CPD) - nice business model...
Back to the original point, I'd always aim for M rather than Assoc if you do want to do it.
Some good points raised here.
Further to my last comments, I put off getting chartered for years, as I thought that the work involved was too much hassle, and I trotted out all the old arguments to myself - 'It's not worth the hassle, why do I need letters to prove that I'm good at my job' etc.
It was by seeing how my ex Uni mates had accelerated past me and were now associates, partners etc and that also when looking for work, every role wanted MRICS,MCIOB, MICE that I decided to knuckle down and go for it.
4 months later was made redundant! Haha. But still, I've got a boat load more options available to me now, than when I wasn't chartered.
I would still only recommend that you go M and not Assoc, as in my humble opinion, the lesser grades of membership don't really count for anything and only prove that you can send a cheque and your CV to the relevant Institute.
Hope this helps.
Further to my last comments, I put off getting chartered for years, as I thought that the work involved was too much hassle, and I trotted out all the old arguments to myself - 'It's not worth the hassle, why do I need letters to prove that I'm good at my job' etc.
It was by seeing how my ex Uni mates had accelerated past me and were now associates, partners etc and that also when looking for work, every role wanted MRICS,MCIOB, MICE that I decided to knuckle down and go for it.
4 months later was made redundant! Haha. But still, I've got a boat load more options available to me now, than when I wasn't chartered.
I would still only recommend that you go M and not Assoc, as in my humble opinion, the lesser grades of membership don't really count for anything and only prove that you can send a cheque and your CV to the relevant Institute.
Hope this helps.
Generally have to agree with the comments about RICS. Other than charging my firm an annual fee, bringing in more crappy paper work I have to do, I don't see the point of them. I think they are very good at marketing themselves but do very little for their members.
The problem comes the qualification is steadily becoming more necessary if you want to progress. At my first company a number of the top partners weren't RICS acredited, esepecially the agents. I worked for a general practice company so it was expected of you to pass after 2 years. It helped that there were a few grads that were in the same position and it just felt like one more exam.
It tough one but as much I'm not a fan of them it has helped in my career.
The problem comes the qualification is steadily becoming more necessary if you want to progress. At my first company a number of the top partners weren't RICS acredited, esepecially the agents. I worked for a general practice company so it was expected of you to pass after 2 years. It helped that there were a few grads that were in the same position and it just felt like one more exam.
It tough one but as much I'm not a fan of them it has helped in my career.
after 20+ years in main contracting working in the Civil Engineering & Construction industry, my advice - for what its worth is this ...
do all you can to become chartered as soon as possible (MICE, ARICS/MRICS, MCIOB etc etc) and then stick it in a draw, pay the annual fees - get on with your life/career - it is worth the effort IMHO especially if you, like so many others, decide to go abroad to gain some experience (another thing I am a BIG FAN OF) as some countries and contractors will not even look at you unless you are chartered!
Stick to a main body - RICS & ICE etc - IOB/InstCES means less and is not a substitute for the others and IOD, EUR Ing (LOL FFS) means absolutely NOTHING at all!
Its only the people who haven't been bothered/managed to become fully chartered that will tell you its not worth doing - ABSOLUTE b
ks!!
khushy
do all you can to become chartered as soon as possible (MICE, ARICS/MRICS, MCIOB etc etc) and then stick it in a draw, pay the annual fees - get on with your life/career - it is worth the effort IMHO especially if you, like so many others, decide to go abroad to gain some experience (another thing I am a BIG FAN OF) as some countries and contractors will not even look at you unless you are chartered!
Stick to a main body - RICS & ICE etc - IOB/InstCES means less and is not a substitute for the others and IOD, EUR Ing (LOL FFS) means absolutely NOTHING at all!
Its only the people who haven't been bothered/managed to become fully chartered that will tell you its not worth doing - ABSOLUTE b
ks!!khushy
Edited by khushy on Wednesday 26th October 15:23
Edited by khushy on Wednesday 26th October 15:26
This is quite an interesting thread.
I started out as an apprentice mechanical engineer, completed the ONC & HNC and then decided that wanted to try something else.
The engineering company I worked for employed outside surveyors to deal with the accounts. They heard I wanted to try something else and offered me a position.
I started off going to uni but only lasted 6months or so. The course didn't really help with my job and I was fed up with learning. Just wanted to work.
That was about 4 years ago now. Haven't regretted my decision to quit uni but this thread has made me think about it.
I started out as an apprentice mechanical engineer, completed the ONC & HNC and then decided that wanted to try something else.
The engineering company I worked for employed outside surveyors to deal with the accounts. They heard I wanted to try something else and offered me a position.
I started off going to uni but only lasted 6months or so. The course didn't really help with my job and I was fed up with learning. Just wanted to work.
That was about 4 years ago now. Haven't regretted my decision to quit uni but this thread has made me think about it.
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