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welsh blackbird

539 posts

130 months

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thehawk said:
Well looks like there is more scandal for the BBC, as reports coming in that someone is now saying they saw Roy Hudd fisting a young bird.
I think you mean Rod Hull!

McClure

1,745 posts

32 months

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welsh blackbird said:
thehawk said:
Well looks like there is more scandal for the BBC, as reports coming in that someone is now saying they saw Roy Hudd fisting a young bird.
I think you mean Rod Hull!
laugh

Shaolin

2,654 posts

75 months

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Evil Jack said:
Shaolin said:
The fact he never married or even had a partner for long implies that it was an obsession that didn't wane like it seems to have with others as they grew up a bit more, got married etc.
Why does it imply that?
Because he kept going? Because he was already in his late 30's on the 1st edition of TOTP and in his 40's and 50's through the time of his greatest fame and abuses. It denies him the excuse that he was overcome with attention and fame at an early age and had it "handed on a plate". He had been adult for decades and better was expected of him.

I don't mean that anyone who doesn't have a long term partner is likely to be a bit dodgy, but that people who are known to be dodgy and don't have partners are more likely to have chosen it as a life style choice. I was saying it to dsitinguish him from the pop stars who indulged and moved on. Like I said, he was one end of a grubby spectrum.

Evil Jack

1,208 posts

114 months

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Lost_BMW said:
I'd probably start with someone known as Evil Jack...whistle
yikes
Married for 12 years to a woman very much over 16.
She does think I'm a funny bugger though, so on that count I'm most definitely busted.

hehe

maxfan

1,622 posts

29 months

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FFS it seems everyone who was on Top Of the Pops seems to have been at it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-221389891/... nesbitt-manager-tells-story-of-grooming-episode-with-lennie-peters.html

"Joseph Randall tour manager for Millican and Nesbitt states that on at least 2 occasions Lennie Peters the singer from Peters and Lee and close friend of both Alan Millican and Tom Nesbitt would act as the spotter and Alan Millican would indicate if the girl was to their liking then the girl would be whisked away and into the back of the transit van where lewd activity would take place"
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9.3

636 posts

78 months

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maxfan said:
FFS it seems everyone who was on Top Of the Pops seems to have been at it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-221389891/... nesbitt-manager-tells-story-of-grooming-episode-with-lennie-peters.html

"Joseph Randall tour manager for Millican and Nesbitt states that on at least 2 occasions Lennie Peters the singer from Peters and Lee and close friend of both Alan Millican and Tom Nesbitt would act as the spotter and Alan Millican would indicate if the girl was to their liking then the girl would be whisked away and into the back of the transit van where lewd activity would take place"
Err, Lennie Peters was blind - so him being used as a "spotter" may be a leg pull....

Rollcage

11,307 posts

78 months

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McClure said:
welsh blackbird said:
thehawk said:
Well looks like there is more scandal for the BBC, as reports coming in that someone is now saying they saw Roy Hudd fisting a young bird.
I think you mean Rod Hull!
laugh
Brilliant!

Eric Mc

77,097 posts

151 months

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maxfan said:
Lennie Peters .....would act as the spotter
I thought Lennie Peters was blind!

I bet Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder were used as alternative spotters then.

Laurel Green

17,974 posts

118 months

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Eric Mc said:
maxfan said:
Lennie Peters .....would act as the spotter
I thought Lennie Peters was blind!
I was just about to say the same, or did he have an exceptional nose for these things.

Cheib

9,125 posts

61 months

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V8mate said:
Anyone else hear Liz Kershaw's revelations on R4's Today Programme this morning?

Having to put up with having her breasts groped whilst 'on air' in 1987 and being asked whether she was a lesbian when she tried to complain. T'wasn't Savile with the hands either... the revelations are only going to become more embarrassing for the Beeb over the coming weeks methinks.
I didn't but just read about it on the BBC website. Shocking.

Seems more and more likely that this was "institutional"....plenty of people knew about it I suspect but they have all kept quiet.....guilt by association I suppose. Even if that association was just saying nothing. I don't think this is a BBC issue per se as I think it's a reflection of the era......it's institutional in that so many people knew and did nothing. As we've seen with Hillsborough recently people in this era were happy to turn a blind eye and even tamper with evidence.

Saville was a huge media personality (as were all the Radio 1 DJ's on the back of ToTP) and probably the highest profile charity fund raiser in the country at the time. His knighthood which he got in 1990 is a sign of how big he was///thsi is before they were thrown around like confetti. You can see how he was massively intimidating...and having watched the programme during the week he was physically intimidating too.

Oakey

16,645 posts

102 months

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Shaolin said:
Because he kept going? Because he was already in his late 30's on the 1st edition of TOTP and in his 40's and 50's through the time of his greatest fame and abuses. It denies him the excuse that he was overcome with attention and fame at an early age and had it "handed on a plate". He had been adult for decades and better was expected of him.

I don't mean that anyone who doesn't have a long term partner is likely to be a bit dodgy, but that people who are known to be dodgy and don't have partners are more likely to have chosen it as a life style choice. I was saying it to dsitinguish him from the pop stars who indulged and moved on. Like I said, he was one end of a grubby spectrum.
Not just that. He was a successful TV personality who, despite his wealth, lived with his mother until she died, spent 5 days with the corpse, preserved her bedroom and took her clothes to be cleaned once a year.

I'm sure Freud would have a field day with that.

skinley

1,681 posts

46 months

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John Peel has been implicated now. I really hope this is not true, it feels like my whole childhood is collapsing around me. (no pun intended)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213621/Cl...

chris watton

15,892 posts

146 months

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skinley said:
John Peel has been implicated now. I really hope this is not true, it feels like my whole childhood is collapsing around me. (no pun intended)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213621/Cl...
I feel the same! frown

southendpier

3,527 posts

115 months

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beardy weirdo.

XCP

12,228 posts

114 months

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skinley said:
John Peel has been implicated now. I really hope this is not true, it feels like my whole childhood is collapsing around me. (no pun intended)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213621/Cl...
Why?
What's so special about Peel?

skinley

1,681 posts

46 months

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XCP said:
Why?
What's so special about Peel?
He's just someone who I respected during my teenage years, I didn't say he was special.

Eric Mc

77,097 posts

151 months

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Personality and reputation matters.

Savile always had dubious aspects to his character.

I don't think anyone would have ever thought Peel had a nasty bone in his body.

And I reckon he hadn't either.

As I mentioned earlier - there is a difference between what Peel is alleged to have done and Savile's exploits.

Bonefish Blues

6,792 posts

109 months

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Eric Mc said:
Personality and reputation matters.

Savile always had dubious aspects to his character.

I don't think anyone would have ever thought Peel had a nasty bone in his body.

And I reckon he hadn't either.

As I mentioned earlier - there is a difference between what Peel is alleged to have done and Savile's exploits.
I think that's right, where "the line" is drawn may change over the years, but Savile's conduct is over that line in any context.

Bitofbully

394 posts

25 months

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XCP said:
Why?
What's so special about Peel?
If you need to ask, you probably wouldn't understand.

southendpier

3,527 posts

115 months

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Bitofbully said:
If you need to ask, you probably wouldn't understand.
he had a lot of followers and could do no wrong, the messiah, for some, boring beardy to others.
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