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welsh blackbird
495 posts
113 months
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thehawk said: Well looks like there is more scandal for the BBC, as reports coming in that someone is now saying they saw Roy Hudd fisting a young bird. I think you mean Rod Hull!
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McClure
1,210 posts
15 months
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welsh blackbird said: thehawk said: Well looks like there is more scandal for the BBC, as reports coming in that someone is now saying they saw Roy Hudd fisting a young bird. I think you mean Rod Hull! 
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Shaolin
2,094 posts
58 months
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Evil Jack said: Shaolin said: The fact he never married or even had a partner for long implies that it was an obsession that didn't wane like it seems to have with others as they grew up a bit more, got married etc. Why does it imply that? Because he kept going? Because he was already in his late 30's on the 1st edition of TOTP and in his 40's and 50's through the time of his greatest fame and abuses. It denies him the excuse that he was overcome with attention and fame at an early age and had it "handed on a plate". He had been adult for decades and better was expected of him. I don't mean that anyone who doesn't have a long term partner is likely to be a bit dodgy, but that people who are known to be dodgy and don't have partners are more likely to have chosen it as a life style choice. I was saying it to dsitinguish him from the pop stars who indulged and moved on. Like I said, he was one end of a grubby spectrum.
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Evil Jack
1,169 posts
97 months
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Lost_BMW said: I'd probably start with someone known as Evil Jack...   Married for 12 years to a woman very much over 16. She does think I'm a funny bugger though, so on that count I'm most definitely busted. 
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maxfan
1,507 posts
12 months
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FFS it seems everyone who was on Top Of the Pops seems to have been at it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-221389891/... nesbitt-manager-tells-story-of-grooming-episode-with-lennie-peters.html "Joseph Randall tour manager for Millican and Nesbitt states that on at least 2 occasions Lennie Peters the singer from Peters and Lee and close friend of both Alan Millican and Tom Nesbitt would act as the spotter and Alan Millican would indicate if the girl was to their liking then the girl would be whisked away and into the back of the transit van where lewd activity would take place"
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9.3
376 posts
61 months
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maxfan said: FFS it seems everyone who was on Top Of the Pops seems to have been at it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-221389891/... nesbitt-manager-tells-story-of-grooming-episode-with-lennie-peters.html "Joseph Randall tour manager for Millican and Nesbitt states that on at least 2 occasions Lennie Peters the singer from Peters and Lee and close friend of both Alan Millican and Tom Nesbitt would act as the spotter and Alan Millican would indicate if the girl was to their liking then the girl would be whisked away and into the back of the transit van where lewd activity would take place" Err, Lennie Peters was blind - so him being used as a "spotter" may be a leg pull....
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Rollcage
9,181 posts
61 months
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McClure said: welsh blackbird said: thehawk said: Well looks like there is more scandal for the BBC, as reports coming in that someone is now saying they saw Roy Hudd fisting a young bird. I think you mean Rod Hull! Brilliant!
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Eric Mc
67,253 posts
134 months
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maxfan said: Lennie Peters .....would act as the spotter I thought Lennie Peters was blind! I bet Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder were used as alternative spotters then.
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Laurel Green
14,868 posts
101 months
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Eric Mc said: maxfan said: Lennie Peters .....would act as the spotter I thought Lennie Peters was blind! I was just about to say the same, or did he have an exceptional nose for these things.
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Cheib
6,210 posts
44 months
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V8mate said: Anyone else hear Liz Kershaw's revelations on R4's Today Programme this morning?
Having to put up with having her breasts groped whilst 'on air' in 1987 and being asked whether she was a lesbian when she tried to complain. T'wasn't Savile with the hands either... the revelations are only going to become more embarrassing for the Beeb over the coming weeks methinks. I didn't but just read about it on the BBC website. Shocking. Seems more and more likely that this was "institutional"....plenty of people knew about it I suspect but they have all kept quiet.....guilt by association I suppose. Even if that association was just saying nothing. I don't think this is a BBC issue per se as I think it's a reflection of the era......it's institutional in that so many people knew and did nothing. As we've seen with Hillsborough recently people in this era were happy to turn a blind eye and even tamper with evidence. Saville was a huge media personality (as were all the Radio 1 DJ's on the back of ToTP) and probably the highest profile charity fund raiser in the country at the time. His knighthood which he got in 1990 is a sign of how big he was///thsi is before they were thrown around like confetti. You can see how he was massively intimidating...and having watched the programme during the week he was physically intimidating too.
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Oakey
13,697 posts
85 months
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Shaolin said: Because he kept going? Because he was already in his late 30's on the 1st edition of TOTP and in his 40's and 50's through the time of his greatest fame and abuses. It denies him the excuse that he was overcome with attention and fame at an early age and had it "handed on a plate". He had been adult for decades and better was expected of him.
I don't mean that anyone who doesn't have a long term partner is likely to be a bit dodgy, but that people who are known to be dodgy and don't have partners are more likely to have chosen it as a life style choice. I was saying it to dsitinguish him from the pop stars who indulged and moved on. Like I said, he was one end of a grubby spectrum. Not just that. He was a successful TV personality who, despite his wealth, lived with his mother until she died, spent 5 days with the corpse, preserved her bedroom and took her clothes to be cleaned once a year. I'm sure Freud would have a field day with that.
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skinley
1,039 posts
29 months
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chris watton
12,348 posts
129 months
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skinley said: I feel the same! 
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southendpier
3,168 posts
98 months
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XCP
10,476 posts
97 months
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skinley said: Why? What's so special about Peel?
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skinley
1,039 posts
29 months
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XCP said: Why?
What's so special about Peel? He's just someone who I respected during my teenage years, I didn't say he was special.
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Eric Mc
67,253 posts
134 months
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Personality and reputation matters.
Savile always had dubious aspects to his character.
I don't think anyone would have ever thought Peel had a nasty bone in his body.
And I reckon he hadn't either.
As I mentioned earlier - there is a difference between what Peel is alleged to have done and Savile's exploits.
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Bonefish Blues
4,140 posts
92 months
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Eric Mc said: Personality and reputation matters.
Savile always had dubious aspects to his character.
I don't think anyone would have ever thought Peel had a nasty bone in his body.
And I reckon he hadn't either.
As I mentioned earlier - there is a difference between what Peel is alleged to have done and Savile's exploits. I think that's right, where "the line" is drawn may change over the years, but Savile's conduct is over that line in any context.
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Bitofbully
394 posts
8 months
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XCP said: Why?
What's so special about Peel? If you need to ask, you probably wouldn't understand.
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southendpier
3,168 posts
98 months
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Bitofbully said: If you need to ask, you probably wouldn't understand. he had a lot of followers and could do no wrong, the messiah, for some, boring beardy to others.
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