apprentices - trainees & benefits . . .
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We are looking to employ and apprentice or trainee.
The applications we have had from an advert have been next to useless - so I called the local college and asked if they could introduce us to the two brightest students that they had currently . . .
The college told me that even if the student wanted to come and join us as an apprentice/trainee, their parents would not allow them to because they would loose their benefits - FFS ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH what is this world coming to???
breathe
They went on to tell me that one of their students, who has a mum with her own business, who attends the college as a full-time apprentice - the reason that this student is not working in her mum's business gaining valuable real-life-business experience is that her mum would loose her benefits!!!!
LOL!
khushy
The applications we have had from an advert have been next to useless - so I called the local college and asked if they could introduce us to the two brightest students that they had currently . . .
The college told me that even if the student wanted to come and join us as an apprentice/trainee, their parents would not allow them to because they would loose their benefits - FFS ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH what is this world coming to???
breathe They went on to tell me that one of their students, who has a mum with her own business, who attends the college as a full-time apprentice - the reason that this student is not working in her mum's business gaining valuable real-life-business experience is that her mum would loose her benefits!!!!
LOL!
khushy
Edited by khushy on Friday 4th November 13:28
And this post sums up probably one of the greatest problems holding this country back.
Even if people do lose benefits, can't they see that sacrifice is sometimes part of the deal and that the end of the training will leave them MUCH better off, both monetarilly and, much more importantly, psychologically and socially.
People seem to have lost that notion that money is not the only thing that matters in life.
Even if people do lose benefits, can't they see that sacrifice is sometimes part of the deal and that the end of the training will leave them MUCH better off, both monetarilly and, much more importantly, psychologically and socially.
People seem to have lost that notion that money is not the only thing that matters in life.
Eric Mc said:
And this post sums up probably one of the greatest problems holding this country back.
Even if people do lose benefits, can't they see that sacrifice is sometimes part of the deal and that the end of the training will leave them MUCH better off, both monetarilly and, much more importantly, psychologically and socially.
People seem to have lost that notion that money is not the only thing that matters in life.
but surely its hardly a "sacrifice" if its for the sake of your own kids???Even if people do lose benefits, can't they see that sacrifice is sometimes part of the deal and that the end of the training will leave them MUCH better off, both monetarilly and, much more importantly, psychologically and socially.
People seem to have lost that notion that money is not the only thing that matters in life.
MENTAL
Surely a better attitude would be for the kids to give their Apprentice wages to their parents for the opportunity - making up the benefit shortfall!
khushy
khushy said:
but surely its hardly a "sacrifice" if its for the sake of your own kids???
MENTAL
Surely a better attitude would be for the kids to give their Apprentice wages to their parents for the opportunity - making up the benefit shortfall!
khushy
You can see that.MENTAL
Surely a better attitude would be for the kids to give their Apprentice wages to their parents for the opportunity - making up the benefit shortfall!
khushy
I can see that.
But I think that there is a huge chunk of the population that has been so "benefitised" and "monetarised" that they cannot see longer term benefits (many of a non monetary nature) that accrue from the "suffer now, gain later" approach to life.
apprenticeships (traditional) are for people to gain skills of a "trade".
A "trade" means a career with your hands usually - so - if you spend your first few years, for example, on an apprenticeship with day release - you will progress further and become more skilled compared to a student who spends all of their formative years in college.
Their is no substitute for on the job, real-world experience as an apprentice - obviously in conjunction with academic studies.
The benefits system is cheating workers of valuable opportunities, skills and learning experiences as well as businesses of a vital future workforce!
They may end up with employees eventually - but they wont have the skills needed to pull us out of the situation we currently face as a nation.
The example I have given basically blocks certain students from gaining that vital experience/skill in the real-world - and as you get older its more difficult to pick up the basics (as you probably end up with lots of bad habits) that you should have learnt whilst on a proper (old-fashioned) apprenticeship IN a business!!!
A "trade" means a career with your hands usually - so - if you spend your first few years, for example, on an apprenticeship with day release - you will progress further and become more skilled compared to a student who spends all of their formative years in college.
Their is no substitute for on the job, real-world experience as an apprentice - obviously in conjunction with academic studies.
The benefits system is cheating workers of valuable opportunities, skills and learning experiences as well as businesses of a vital future workforce!
They may end up with employees eventually - but they wont have the skills needed to pull us out of the situation we currently face as a nation.
The example I have given basically blocks certain students from gaining that vital experience/skill in the real-world - and as you get older its more difficult to pick up the basics (as you probably end up with lots of bad habits) that you should have learnt whilst on a proper (old-fashioned) apprenticeship IN a business!!!
Edited by khushy on Saturday 5th November 13:04
Edited by khushy on Saturday 5th November 13:06
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