Ferrari 458 Kit
Discussion
Hi all,
New to this site, just wanted a bit of advice and as I'm not sure where's best to post this I don't want to be branded a spammer.
I am aware that Ferrari/Lamborghini body kits can be adapted for Toyota MR2. Understandably, I am a little bit in love with the Ferrari 458 Italia and wondered whether there were any similar kits in existence?
I hope someone can point me in the right direction despite this being a potential dignity damager.
Thanks,
Paul
New to this site, just wanted a bit of advice and as I'm not sure where's best to post this I don't want to be branded a spammer.
I am aware that Ferrari/Lamborghini body kits can be adapted for Toyota MR2. Understandably, I am a little bit in love with the Ferrari 458 Italia and wondered whether there were any similar kits in existence?
I hope someone can point me in the right direction despite this being a potential dignity damager.
Thanks,
Paul
Nice helpful reply there Paul D. Apologies on behalf of all of us who can't afford or wish to invest that amount of money in a Ferrari.
Welcome to PH PaulM
I'm sure someone more helpful will be along shortly. I like the Lamborghini replicas myself rather than the Ferraris.
Welcome to PH PaulM
I'm sure someone more helpful will be along shortly. I like the Lamborghini replicas myself rather than the Ferraris.
Edited by rickbrown74 on Thursday 10th November 21:38
@paulmufc - there isn't one available at the moment - certainly plenty of fake claims of body moulds though as http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=... shows (faking you're selling a fake, lol!)
Round here F reps are generally not well liked particularly those replicating cars still available - it's strange because at some point (we'll call it the "K" point) the car being replicated is seen as old enough for replicas to be OK. Where the k point lies though depends largely on who you speak to. Let's not get too tied up with this though as it's been done to death and opinions are polarised as you've already found out.
Back on topic - if anyone was likely to produce one in the UK it's probably going to be Extreme or DNA (can't find DNA UK site) - DNA have recently released the 5cudo a very accurate cougar based 430.
ETA - hope that was more helpful!
ETA2 - DNA UK site not yet updated with 5cudo tho
Round here F reps are generally not well liked particularly those replicating cars still available - it's strange because at some point (we'll call it the "K" point) the car being replicated is seen as old enough for replicas to be OK. Where the k point lies though depends largely on who you speak to. Let's not get too tied up with this though as it's been done to death and opinions are polarised as you've already found out.
Back on topic - if anyone was likely to produce one in the UK it's probably going to be Extreme or DNA (can't find DNA UK site) - DNA have recently released the 5cudo a very accurate cougar based 430.
ETA - hope that was more helpful!
ETA2 - DNA UK site not yet updated with 5cudo tho
Edited by smash on Thursday 10th November 22:10
Edited by smash on Thursday 10th November 22:16
Yet "fake" Lotus 7s are the mainstay of the kitcar industry. I own an MK, I wouldn't ever own a Ferrari replica myself but to knock them is somewhat hypocritical unless you're going to knock the whole industry.
Personally I couldn't care if you're driving a saxo with blue lights underneath or a veyron, so long as you're not chasing me with a tree in your arms and a panda in your pocket shouting "cars are evil" you'll do for me.
Personally I couldn't care if you're driving a saxo with blue lights underneath or a veyron, so long as you're not chasing me with a tree in your arms and a panda in your pocket shouting "cars are evil" you'll do for me.
The snobbery among some kit car owners is quite ironic really.
Fake Cobra,Seven,Ferrari,Porsche etc etc,what's the big deal,or should kit cars only be original designs,in which case it would be a tiny market and would probably not even merit a forum page like this.
Some people need to get over themselves.
If you want a Ferrari looking MR2 go for it mate,ignore the idiots
Fake Cobra,Seven,Ferrari,Porsche etc etc,what's the big deal,or should kit cars only be original designs,in which case it would be a tiny market and would probably not even merit a forum page like this.
Some people need to get over themselves.
If you want a Ferrari looking MR2 go for it mate,ignore the idiots
V8covin said:
The snobbery among some kit car owners is quite ironic really.
Fake Cobra,Seven,Ferrari,Porsche etc etc,what's the big deal,or should kit cars only be original designs,in which case it would be a tiny market and would probably not even merit a forum page like this.
Some people need to get over themselves.
If you want a Ferrari looking MR2 go for it mate,ignore the idiots
Absolutely. However, I wonder if blind replication in fact stunted the industry back in the 90s... Maybe if efforts HAD been put into designs other than the 'quick-fix' Locost-derivatives and Cob-clones our industry might be in a healthier state.Fake Cobra,Seven,Ferrari,Porsche etc etc,what's the big deal,or should kit cars only be original designs,in which case it would be a tiny market and would probably not even merit a forum page like this.
Some people need to get over themselves.
If you want a Ferrari looking MR2 go for it mate,ignore the idiots
I don't believe the vast majority of the kit car buying public actually want original designs.
The image of kit cars is generally a poor one so if you have a car on your drive that looks like an existing super car you're likely to get a better response from joe public than if you have something 99% of people have never seen or heard of before....and we all know how important image is in todays society
The image of kit cars is generally a poor one so if you have a car on your drive that looks like an existing super car you're likely to get a better response from joe public than if you have something 99% of people have never seen or heard of before....and we all know how important image is in todays society
V8covin said:
I don't believe the vast majority of the kit car buying public actually want original designs
Perhaps, but I don't think we'll ever know. The market has been steered to the 'replica' sector and it's difficult to go back. It was just the easy option to build '7's. Having said that Stuart Mills is forging ahead with all original designs.V8covin said:
I don't believe the vast majority of the kit car buying public actually want original designs.
The image of kit cars is generally a poor one so if you have a car on your drive that looks like an existing super car you're likely to get a better response from joe public than if you have something 99% of people have never seen or heard of before....and we all know how important image is in todays society
I think the Veranti is a classic example of that - nice looking original design, & what happened? It never sold many & I remember seeing the moulds etc were for sale not so long ago - great shame, but unfortunately just displays the blinkered, sheeplike mentality of most of the kitcar buying public The image of kit cars is generally a poor one so if you have a car on your drive that looks like an existing super car you're likely to get a better response from joe public than if you have something 99% of people have never seen or heard of before....and we all know how important image is in todays society
Personally I think it's more a case of publicity. Most people tend to recognise a Ferrari or Lambo even if it's not one, lots will just label anything low and pointy particularly if it's red as a Ferrari.
Kit's on the other hand can't afford the publicity and marketing hype (which let's face it is really all it is) and you only have to take a look at TopGear to see what the establishment tends to do with anything that dares to be a bit different particularly if it isn't going to cost you an arm and a leg to be exclusive. A case of the Emperor's New Clothes to my mind.
Take a good look a the the British Car industry (what's left of it) and you'll find that many of them actually started as Kit cars somewhere in their line up. Even Lotus made kits, TVR, Noble, Marcos, Ginetta, and of course Ultima. The list goes on.
No there's plenty of superb kits out there that are head and shoulders above the mass produced off the shelf vehicles but of course the British public tend to act like sheep and rubbish anything not built by a corporation just because someone with some influence does.
I agree DNA build some excellent styling kits to make pretty ordinary cars rather sexy and what's wrong with that? Of course just ripping off a mould from something might not be particularly inventive but impersonation is a form of flattery. Making a fake though is in my opinion a bit different and I think it rather sad that someone hasn't got the balls to stick a badge on something they made to say "I MADE THIS!"
Be proud of what you make what ever it is you make. It takes a lot more effort and ingenuity to build a car than just getting one from a show room.
Kit's on the other hand can't afford the publicity and marketing hype (which let's face it is really all it is) and you only have to take a look at TopGear to see what the establishment tends to do with anything that dares to be a bit different particularly if it isn't going to cost you an arm and a leg to be exclusive. A case of the Emperor's New Clothes to my mind.
Take a good look a the the British Car industry (what's left of it) and you'll find that many of them actually started as Kit cars somewhere in their line up. Even Lotus made kits, TVR, Noble, Marcos, Ginetta, and of course Ultima. The list goes on.
No there's plenty of superb kits out there that are head and shoulders above the mass produced off the shelf vehicles but of course the British public tend to act like sheep and rubbish anything not built by a corporation just because someone with some influence does.
I agree DNA build some excellent styling kits to make pretty ordinary cars rather sexy and what's wrong with that? Of course just ripping off a mould from something might not be particularly inventive but impersonation is a form of flattery. Making a fake though is in my opinion a bit different and I think it rather sad that someone hasn't got the balls to stick a badge on something they made to say "I MADE THIS!"
Be proud of what you make what ever it is you make. It takes a lot more effort and ingenuity to build a car than just getting one from a show room.
Lets face it, 90% of the people who arent reasonably into cars dont even realise a 7 kit is a replica/copy of a Lotus 7, they just think "its a kit".
People are more likely to walk up to a 7 or Cobra original and say "its a kit" than they are a kit and say "its a Cobra/Lotus 7".
In other words, from an image/public awareness point of view, the kits have surpassed the originals in respect to those two models for the wider public. The original has become its copy in a way.
What a downer for owners of originals.
People are more likely to walk up to a 7 or Cobra original and say "its a kit" than they are a kit and say "its a Cobra/Lotus 7".
In other words, from an image/public awareness point of view, the kits have surpassed the originals in respect to those two models for the wider public. The original has become its copy in a way.
What a downer for owners of originals.
_Leg_ said:
Lets face it, 90% of the people who arent reasonably into cars dont even realise a 7 kit is a replica/copy of a Lotus 7, they just think "its a kit".
People are more likely to walk up to a 7 or Cobra original and say "its a kit" than they are a kit and say "its a Cobra/Lotus 7".
In other words, from an image/public awareness point of view, the kits have surpassed the originals in respect to those two models for the wider public. The original has become its copy in a way.
What a downer for owners of originals.
Cheaper to run, cheaper to insure, cheaper to repair and to top it all drive better generally too! Yeah kits are quite something but people will carry on rubbishing them just because they haven't got the nouse to build one, and hate to think someone who bulids one by hand in his garage because he loves the car might do a better job than someone paid to work in a factory.People are more likely to walk up to a 7 or Cobra original and say "its a kit" than they are a kit and say "its a Cobra/Lotus 7".
In other words, from an image/public awareness point of view, the kits have surpassed the originals in respect to those two models for the wider public. The original has become its copy in a way.
What a downer for owners of originals.
Arthur Jackson said:
smash said:
Did you actually read anything? The F430 reps are nowhere near the cost of the real thing 
..and then there's the comparison of servicing and repair costs too.Fake Ferrari? No worse than a fake Cobra.
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