Legal to change Job title?

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fizz47

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2,682 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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What are the leaglities of changing a job title.

A close family friend of mine has the title of CFO (Chief Financial Officer) for a small (50 employees) company.

He is very well paid for the work he does but the head of HR is a right old bh who basically is campainging to change his job title ( read between the lines - she wants to get rid of him as she holds a grudge about how much he gets paid)

She is making life very difficult for him and doing roles that actually she isnt technically qualified for. ( she had an affair with one of the senior guys at the comapny and got a big promotion)


In his contract his title is CFO and if they want to change his title what are the legalities of it and can they force him to accept new title?

Can anyone just change the title of a job?

The organisation has a board of trustees who make the final decision.



Simbu

1,792 posts

175 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Well I assume his actual role and responsibilities wont be changing, nor his salary. So i'd have sent an email by now questioning the value of her wasting her time on arguing about semantics!

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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What does she want to change the job title to?

Failing that, he should pretend to seduce her to make her say something compromising, and get it on tape. smile

SLCZ3

1,207 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Perhaps he should consider having an affair with one of Senior persons at the comapnay or even an affair with one of their spouse"s??
That would sort the bh out.scratchchin

fizz47

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2,682 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Role and responsibilites wont change but its just her being a bh to be honest and making life as difficult as possible.

One of those people who has an inferiority complex and has no friends. 40s, single etc, and seems to have something to prove for some reason.

From what I have heard has made things very miserable for a lot of people but is a clever enough to stay all smiles with a couple of the senior peole who have the ear of a couple of the trustees. I've been told by a number of poeple there is a lot of backstabbing and sly things she does to undermine others. The thing is she knows that if this job goes she will never be able to get a similar level of work with such a high salary considering she is not even close to being qualified for this role.


The CEO to be fair is a bit of a pushover and avoids confrontation.

Its a shame about naming and shaming rules...

mrmr96

13,736 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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davepoth said:
What does she want to change the job title to?
^ This?

fizz47

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2,682 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Dont know yet...he only knows that she is opushing for it to be changed

Does what they want to change it to have bearing.

Is it allowed to be changed? E.g they change it to Financial Controller.

Magic919

14,126 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I have to laugh that they have a CEO and CFO with only 50 people employed.

esuuv

1,324 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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As per the above comment - does it really matter?

If you have a job you enjoy, and are paid what you want to be paid - then what your email signature says surely doesn't matter.

esuuv - junior assistant dogs body

I have known cases where people have been "bribed" with titles instead of pay rises / etc - madness!!

98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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It depends on how the contract is worded. My last company changed my job title, and my duties on more than one occasion. My contract had a statement in it that said they could do this. At one stage they wanted to move me into a team I used to manage frown

Eventually we decided that a compromise agreement was the way forward.

The stupid thing is they really didn't want me to go (i had a lot of specialist knowledge, and I'm a decent enough person) and its ended up with them having to hire in an expensive contractor to replace me. All they had to do was stop fking about with my job smile

fizz47

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2,682 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Magic919 said:
I have to laugh that they have a CEO and CFO with only 50 people employed.
Makes me laugh too but its an American backed project who have very very deep pockets(I was gobsmacked when I found out how much they were paying for very very little work) - We are talking 6 figure sum for part time hours.

Hence why he does not want to be pushed- He gets the feeling that this is what the silly bint and another senior guy is angling for.

The other senior guy who had the affair with the bint is angling for the CEO position hence all the nasty backstabbing and wierdly enough its the CEO who gave both of these people jobs but they are now trying to get him out.

Soovy

35,829 posts

272 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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fizz47 said:
Magic919 said:
I have to laugh that they have a CEO and CFO with only 50 people employed.
Makes me laugh too but its an American backed project who have very very deep pockets(I was gobsmacked when I found out how much they were paying for very very little work) - We are talking 6 figure sum for part time hours.

Hence why he does not want to be pushed- He gets the feeling that this is what the silly bint and another senior guy is angling for.

The other senior guy who had the affair with the bint is angling for the CEO position hence all the nasty backstabbing and wierdly enough its the CEO who gave both of these people jobs but they are now trying to get him out.
It doesn't matter what you're called.

For £500,000 a year I'll be called Chief Fluffer.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Soovy said:
It doesn't matter what you're called.

For £500,000 a year I'll be called Chief Fluffer.
Yeah, but if he's the "CFO" and then he gets renamed to "Cheif Fluffer" they'll then recruit a new guy and call him "CFO" and finally dump the fluffer because, well, "who the hell needs a Fluffer on a project like this?"

Matthewjson

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149 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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The title can be changed, however, a meeting should take place where details and reasons of changing the title are given. Just a quote I've found:

"A contract of employment is a legal agreement between the employer and the employee. It contains terms, either express or implied, which cannot lawfully be changed or varied by the employer without further agreement from the employee (either individually or through the trade union)."

Good website with valuable information - http://www.worksmart.org.uk

I'm no expert but employment law is what I'm interested in!

fizz47

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2,682 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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mrmr96 said:
Yeah, but if he's the "CFO" and then he gets renamed to "Cheif Fluffer" they'll then recruit a new guy and call him "CFO" and finally dump the fluffer because, well, "who the hell needs a Fluffer on a project like this?"
Hahahah- very well put