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IanMorewood
2,353 posts
117 months
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CBR JGWRR said: Yeah, but they do have cameras... You didnt mean cameras either did you or cannons you where on about the wings I think.
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CBR JGWRR
5,078 posts
18 months
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IanMorewood said: CBR JGWRR said: Yeah, but they do have cameras... You didnt mean cameras either did you or cannons you were on about the wings I think.  I guess I can say they have a cannon, just nothing technical.
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Dr Banjo
301 posts
18 months
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CBR JGWRR said: IanMorewood said: CBR JGWRR said: Yeah, but they do have cameras... You didnt mean cameras either did you or cannons you were on about the wings I think. I guess I can say they have a cannon, just nothing technical. Can you picture it ... Conflict where some poor jock is relying on the Typhoon cannon/camera In your lifetime ? 
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Puggit
29,483 posts
117 months
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jmorgan
17,016 posts
153 months
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Well, if correct, she is going to go off one one.
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CBR JGWRR
5,078 posts
18 months
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Isn't that just a few days worth, globally?
(I could regret this...)
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hidetheelephants
5,598 posts
62 months
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CBR JGWRR said: Isn't that just a few days worth, globally?
(I could regret this...) Yes, but that's not really the point; if the geology of the north basin is as the crystal ball gazers say it is, it's going to be about half the size of the whole North Sea in terms of output. The Kelpers understandably have a containerload of 10 gallon hats on order.
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CBR JGWRR
5,078 posts
18 months
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Then there really will be a war...
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Mark.H
3,207 posts
75 months
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Given Arg' financial situation, there has to be an amount of proven oil reserves at which they decide to make a grab for the Islands/Oil and hide it behind Soverignty claims.
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CBR JGWRR
5,078 posts
18 months
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Exactly. And if there is half the north sea under there...
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FarleyRusk
1,004 posts
80 months
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I just love the way a bunch of Spanish colonists are making accusations of colonialism! I give em 10/10 for barefaced cheek!
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TheHeretic
67,941 posts
124 months
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FarleyRusk said: I just love the way a bunch of Spanish colonists are making accusations of colonialism! I give em 10/10 for barefaced cheek!  If they want a war, they can have one. It won't be as long as the last one, nor as risky to our side.
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IanMorewood
2,353 posts
117 months
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TheHeretic said: If they want a war, they can have one. It won't be as long as the last one, nor as risky to our side. Little gungho; but have to agree result would be the same as last time our armed forces would do whatever needed to defend/retake/rebuff the Argentines.
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TheHeretic
67,941 posts
124 months
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IanMorewood said: TheHeretic said: If they want a war, they can have one. It won't be as long as the last one, nor as risky to our side. Little gungho; but have to agree result would be the same as last time our armed forces would do whatever needed to defend/retake/rebuff the Argentines. I can't abide hypocrisy, and the constant prattling on about the Falklands by the Argentinian authorities every now and then gets boring. Either put up or shut up. I'm sure the islanders are fed up of it.
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DJRC
19,824 posts
105 months
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Ian Lancs said: fandango_c said: Ian Lancs said: fandango_c said: CBR JGWRR said: And eurofighters don't have that many seconds worth of bullets. RAF ones have zero seconds of bullets  b  ks. All Typhoons are fitted with a gun, which is loaded when required (which includes QRA) Fair enough. I hadn't realised that the RAF had changed their mind from their original decision to not have a cannon. Sorry I may have been a bit harsh. The story goes... Typhoon originally designed with a cannon (same one as fitted to Tornado). MoD ops requirements then decided that they didn't need one as any future air war would be fought outside the range of a gun - no thoughts given to air to surface strafing. Unfortunately, the Flight Control System needs to know exactly what weight is where on the aircraft, so removing the gun may have saved the cost of buying the gun, but then we either had to rewrite all the flying control software (kerching!) or replace it with ballast (concrete was talked about in the press). Thankfully after a bit of "discussion" the gun was refitted. There was no discussion over that. We told them it was designed for the weight, it was being delivered to that spec and they could do what the f k they wanted with it or pay for a CCN for us as it was a change to spec.
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Ian Lancs
564 posts
35 months
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DJRC said: There was no discussion over that. We told them it was designed for the weight, it was being delivered to that spec and they could do what the f k they wanted with it or pay for a CCN for us as it was a change to spec. There was a discussion - I sat in meetings with Typhoon requirements managers where it was pointed out to them exactly what you wrote. For supposedly smart people, they really didn't grasp the concept of the FCS using the aircraft weight so much.
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DJRC
19,824 posts
105 months
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Ian Lancs said: DJRC said: There was no discussion over that. We told them it was designed for the weight, it was being delivered to that spec and they could do what the f k they wanted with it or pay for a CCN for us as it was a change to spec. There was a discussion - I sat in meetings with Typhoon requirements managers where it was pointed out to them exactly what you wrote. For supposedly smart people, they really didn't grasp the concept of the FCS using the aircraft weight so much. Er...you seem to be under the illusion I was MOD, wrong way round. And there the public part of this conversation ends for me, others are more comfortable discussing details in public than I. Am on mail if you want to continue.
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Ayahuasca
16,053 posts
148 months
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/02/falklands...The RGs are pushing quite hard for direct flights between BA and the islands. Whilst direct links are a good thing if their intentions are honourable it is strange that they are pushing for this yet banning cruise ships, etc. If an RG civilian airliner from Argentina landed on a regular, scheduled basis at MPA for a number of months until it became part of the furniture, I wonder what we would do if one day the airliner turned out to be a C130 loaded with RG special forces?
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jbi
5,288 posts
73 months
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aren't flights currently from chile?
if this is the case... perhaps Argentina is looking to exert more control by replacing the Chilean flights with it's own, therefore dictating the terms of passage to and from south america.
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Voight Kampff
Original Poster
1,108 posts
29 months
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Ayahuasca said: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/02/falklands...The RGs are pushing quite hard for direct flights between BA and the islands. Whilst direct links are a good thing if their intentions are honourable it is strange that they are pushing for this yet banning cruise ships, etc. If an RG civilian airliner from Argentina landed on a regular, scheduled basis at MPA for a number of months until it became part of the furniture, I wonder what we would do if one day the airliner turned out to be a C130 loaded with RG special forces? That had been mooted on here by a few others, either its for that scenario, to earn some extra revenue or to get some stranglehold over the movement and therefore freedom of the islanders. Of lately the Argies have been doing a very good job of losing friends and alienating people after trying to isolate us and now picking on Repsol. This jingoistic nationalism is all very good for getting the public vote internally but they forget these days there are global stakeholders that will not react well to this s t.
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