Man who threw guy against a moving train let off

Man who threw guy against a moving train let off

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Pesty

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42,655 posts

257 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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with suspended sentence.

I know I'm a bit thick so could sombody please explain to me how this was not considered attempted murder?


Or at the very least the sentence should have reflected that the victim could have died.



Caught on CCTV: The terrifying moment thug hurls man against a moving train because he asked passenger to stop making lewd comments

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092745/Da...




Edited by Pesty on Saturday 28th January 21:48

Gareth79

7,722 posts

247 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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I was puzzled too - I assumed it was this "don't jail somebody unless absolutely necessary" rule gone mad. You can see from the images that the train was moving at the time, the platform was relatively narrow, and the swing was so violent that Worgan knew (or should have known) that the other chap was at massive risk of falling between or under the train.

I expect that because it was a prison sentence (even if suspended) *and* a community order and curfew that the CPS won't appeal.


AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Plain and simple threw him at a moving train. If he had gone between the trucks he would have most likely been dead. I can't see that as anything other than attempted murder.

greygoose

8,286 posts

196 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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It seems a very lenient sentence having seen the video and I was surprised he wasn't charged with a more serious offence.

DonkeyApple

55,741 posts

170 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Sadly, you just know a creature like that will attack again.

barker22

1,037 posts

168 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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This is disgusting.
Serious question, how do we stop this from happening, is there anything joe public can do to make their voices heard that we want tougher sentences. Is it going to take mass protests or something more.
The last time the criminals got tougher sentences(riots) there was uproar about it being unfair and that it was ruining peoples lives because of a 'heat of the moment' decision.`

FarleyRusk

1,036 posts

212 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Its difficult to understand the mitigating factors the judge had in mind when sentencing. Had he recently become a father? Had he just found religion? Or developped Altzheimer's? Was he a promising footballer?

Or may be a combination if all if the above? No way the poor lamb should get a custodial for just twirling someone around!

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Lucky didn't get a limb ripped off. I am guessing he pleaded the sob story about being a worker and drunk etc..




Driller

8,310 posts

279 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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"...and nobody seems to notice and nobody seems to care..."

Mojooo

12,783 posts

181 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Soudnsl ike appealing a sentence is only done for very serious cases as it costs a loto f time and money:

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/fact_sheets/unduly_leni...

As a member of the public you can refer it to your lcoal CPS office to consider...

7mike

3,014 posts

194 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Sadly, you just know a creature like that will attack again.
Yes, shame he drives a truck for a living. Wouldn't want to be around next time his temper gets the better of him.

ExChrispy Porker

16,956 posts

229 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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7mike said:
Yes, shame he drives a truck for a living. Wouldn't want to be around next time his temper gets the better of him.
Perhaps that was the thinking behind suspending the sentence.

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Mojooo said:
Soudnsl ike appealing a sentence is only done for very serious cases as it costs a loto f time and money:

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/fact_sheets/unduly_leni...

As a member of the public you can refer it to your lcoal CPS office to consider...
I got in touch with local MP over a case where two drunk yobs harassed and attacked an old man and he died of heart attack.

My MP did get in touch with correct people about the lenient sentences, copied me on all the communications, but they got back to him saying they simply beleive the sentences were just.

Both the murdering turds will be out on the street before they are 26, I seem to recall, if they keep their noses clean in jail.

Mojooo

12,783 posts

181 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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The fact that it has to go to the Court of Appeal will probably mean it will cost a lot of time and money hence they probably only do itwhen someone will get a massivley bigger sentence.

As the link says, it has to bu unduly lenient, not just lenient.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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That's pretty bad. Attempted murder isn't 'all that' I suppose.
If I had been the victim I would be most displeased with the judgement, and would be tempted to pursue the avenues of taking justice into my own hands.

Pesty

Original Poster:

42,655 posts

257 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Halb said:
and would be tempted to pursue the avenues of taking justice into my own hands.
If there is one thing the judges do not like it is this.

Expect a long time inside.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Pesty said:
Halb said:
and would be tempted to pursue the avenues of taking justice into my own hands.
If there is one thing the judges do not like it is this.

Expect a long time inside.
Probably sadly true. Doesn't seem right really, but having to stomach been thrown at a moving train and he gets a suspended, madness!biggrin

glazbagun

14,297 posts

198 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Pesty said:
Halb said:
and would be tempted to pursue the avenues of taking justice into my own hands.
If there is one thing the judges do not like it is this.

Expect a long time inside.
yes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-ea...

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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glazbagun said:
Something a little less public perhaps?biggrin