A question for the VAG guys

A question for the VAG guys

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028butlerboy

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98 posts

150 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Short and sweet, is the 1.9tdi 105bhp as good reliability wise as the older 1.9tdi 130bhp?

Defcon5

6,159 posts

190 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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I would imagine they are very similar engines anyway.

028butlerboy

Original Poster:

98 posts

150 months

Sunday 12th February 2012
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Defcon5 said:
I would imagine they are very similar engines anyway.
well yes, but usually internals are worlds apart reliability wise, take the 130 and the 150bhp diesels of yesteryear, the 130 was bombproof to a degree but the 150 had camshaft issues and so forth.

va1o

16,029 posts

206 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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They are very similar engines, the 105 has just been tweaked to fit the newer emissions standards. I'd avoid the last 08/ 09 ones with DPFs though.

podwin

652 posts

201 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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I've had two for 4 years now and neither car has gone wrong.

EDLT

15,421 posts

205 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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How old are we talking about? The PD-engines are supposed to be more reliable than the later ones, and the really old mechanical injection engines are better still.

None will leave you at the side of the road more than once though, injectors/pumps/flywheels seem to be good for just over 100,000 miles. How long do you intend to keep the car?

McSam

6,753 posts

174 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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028butlerboy said:
Defcon5 said:
I would imagine they are very similar engines anyway.
well yes, but usually internals are worlds apart reliability wise, take the 130 and the 150bhp diesels of yesteryear, the 130 was bombproof to a degree but the 150 had camshaft issues and so forth.
Yeah - but you're looking at the lower-power version! The 130 is pretty indestructible, so the 105 really isn't going to be stressed.

podwin

652 posts

201 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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As I understand it, the 105bhp version is the last iteration of the 1.9, and should be reliable, and is only PD, and was offered with DPF as an option only.

028butlerboy

Original Poster:

98 posts

150 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Thanks guys, it's an 07 caddy with 5 speed box and only 28k on it. So nothing much to worry about then.

Heathwood

2,523 posts

201 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Yep, having looked into this lately, it seems the 105ps TDI is pretty bomb proof if serviced correctly.

mclwanB

600 posts

244 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Keep on hearing how good this engine is. Thing is, the 105bhp one in my 09 plate/63k octavia seized on me today on a dual carriageway and looks like a complete write off.... nearly a very nasty accident but fortunately reacted quickly to knock it out of gear and coast to a slip road and missed being flattened by the truck I'd just overtaken by an inch!

Maybe it's something going around, friends have lost a 330CI and an Elise's engines in the last few weeks (even though as a K the latter was well overdue at 105k) and the RAC guy had had 3 detonate on clients today...

va1o

16,029 posts

206 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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mclwanB said:
Keep on hearing how good this engine is. Thing is, the 105bhp one in my 09 plate/63k octavia seized on me today on a dual carriageway and looks like a complete write off.... nearly a very nasty accident but fortunately reacted quickly to knock it out of gear and coast to a slip road and missed being flattened by the truck I'd just overtaken by an inch!

Maybe it's something going around, friends have lost a 330CI and an Elise's engines in the last few weeks (even though as a K the latter was well overdue at 105k) and the RAC guy had had 3 detonate on clients today...
Very unusual. Did it have a FSH with Skoda?

Classic Grad 98

24,602 posts

159 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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va1o said:
Very unusual. Did it have a FSH with Skoda?
I'd be asking if it had any oil in it...

mclwanB

600 posts

244 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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How rude!! Pretty fastidiously check the oil although difficult in Devon to find somewhere flat enough!! Bizarrely oil still in the normal range on the dipstick both just after the failure and on return to the garage. Cambelt intact. FSH but not with a Skoda Garage. Gone to Skoda exeter for diagnostics, still in warranty for age and only 2,800 miles out for mileage so hoping they want to keep their reputation in good order... Some people have suggested oil pump failure, anybody have any ideas? No warning of any sort until the bang and loss of power, just the battery light on afterwards..

Heathwood

2,523 posts

201 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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mclwanB said:
How rude!! Pretty fastidiously check the oil although difficult in Devon to find somewhere flat enough!! Bizarrely oil still in the normal range on the dipstick both just after the failure and on return to the garage. Cambelt intact. FSH but not with a Skoda Garage. Gone to Skoda exeter for diagnostics, still in warranty for age and only 2,800 miles out for mileage so hoping they want to keep their reputation in good order... Some people have suggested oil pump failure, anybody have any ideas? No warning of any sort until the bang and loss of power, just the battery light on afterwards..
Are you sure the engine has had it? Could it be the turbo (perhaps just a hose / pipe has come adrift leaving you with no boost)?

morgrp

4,128 posts

197 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Is yours a 2.0 or 1.9? There is a murmur about around a recall on some 2.0 Tdi's that were fitted with a chain driven oil pump that is floored in it's design and has been known to fail - not sure of engines or years but I'm sure a VAG expert on PH will be able to enlighten you - From my experience and I serviced many in my time, the 1.9's are generally more reliable than the 2.0 - although the latest 2.0 tdi CR's are reputed to be very good - as far as diesel engines go (and lets be honest, most modern diesels are just ticking timebombs based on the pressures they run at now), the large majority of them are pretty robust.

mclwanB

600 posts

244 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Hoping very much the engine hasn't had it. Definitely the 1.9 by the registration documents as well as performance/ NVH- have driven the 2l too. Don't think its turbo- had one go previously and didn't cause engine to cut out or fail to turn over on starter motor (not even a whirr...). Work car but would be better if it doesn't cost them loads as they will be rather unhappy! Came from a Honda crv that did 122k local backroad miles with only transmission problems, focus before that was a lemon!

mclwanB

600 posts

244 months

Friday 17th February 2012
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Report in: con rod through head of block. Fault of manufacture in block causing piston to catch/ seize and force con rod wherever suggested by knowledge friend (ex diesel engineer). Skoda customer relations doesn't work Fridays but apparently garage said as not full skoda service history unlikely to offer any sort of goodwill gesture.

Surely a properly maintained engine is "not reasonably fit for its purpose" if it fails at 2.5 years/ 63k?

MJK 24

5,648 posts

235 months

Friday 17th February 2012
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mclwanB said:
Report in: con rod through head of block. Fault of manufacture in block causing piston to catch/ seize and force con rod wherever suggested by knowledge friend (ex diesel engineer). Skoda customer relations doesn't work Fridays but apparently garage said as not full skoda service history unlikely to offer any sort of goodwill gesture.

Surely a properly maintained engine is "not reasonably fit for its purpose" if it fails at 2.5 years/ 63k?
If the vehicle is still in its three year warranty and you have proof that it has been serviced on time with OE quality parts, they should treat your claim as seriously as another as far as I understand.

va1o

16,029 posts

206 months

Friday 17th February 2012
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I've found similar with VAG on goodwill, if it doesn't have a FSH with them or you bought it from a non main-dealer they refuse to help unless your prepared to argue.