Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 2]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 2]

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lord trumpton

7,396 posts

126 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Justin Cyder said:
StevieBee said:
Why don't pilots or cabin crew suffer from jet lag...or do they?
Oh yes they do. I once went out with a BA cabin crew girl who would regularly fall asleep in the pub, restaurant, anywhere.

On second thoughts, maybe I'm just really, really boring.
sleep Sorry, what was that?

MissChief

7,109 posts

168 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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lord trumpton said:
Justin Cyder said:
StevieBee said:
Why don't pilots or cabin crew suffer from jet lag...or do they?
Oh yes they do. I once went out with a BA cabin crew girl who would regularly fall asleep in the pub, restaurant, anywhere.

On second thoughts, maybe I'm just really, really boring.
sleep Sorry, what was that?
In seriousness, I'd imagine if they're doing long haul flights in and then Out relatively quickly they would probably try and stay on UK time (or wherever their home is) otherwise they get so completely confused their body clock would scream 'sleep!' At 3pm local time. Would make it a bit difficult for departures in far away places I admit.

mug81

256 posts

144 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Do banks really charge small retailers 50p for a debit card transaction? It really irks me (much more than it should)

juan king

1,093 posts

189 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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What are the vents for? Seen on the front corners of most tractor units

CraigyMc

16,405 posts

236 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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mug81 said:
Do banks really charge small retailers 50p for a debit card transaction? It really irks me (much more than it should)
It's more like 10p. Credit cards are usually a percentage.

leafspring

7,032 posts

137 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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CraigyMc said:
mug81 said:
Do banks really charge small retailers 50p for a debit card transaction? It really irks me (much more than it should)
It's more like 10p. Credit cards are usually a percentage.
The bank charges the retailer about 10p or a percentage as stated...

It's when the shop keeper charges US 50p that annoys me... I don't know if it's because they have to rent/buy the card readers from the bank or just to make a profit because the bank charges him when we pay wit the card (boo hoo, sob story about how running a business isn't easy with Tesco on every corner yadda yadda yadda wink)

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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juan king said:


What are the vents for? Seen on the front corners of most tractor units
I believe they are for air control and to reduce drag. They don't go anywhere, just force some of the air to make a tighter corner as they go round the edge of the cab. Any air that has been splatted by the front face would get forced out sideways, and this would leave a low pressure area on the corners.

It looks like this grabs that air, and directs it along the side to get rid of that pocket.

juan king

1,093 posts

189 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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That makes sense, thanks

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Sea containers.
You know the ones on the back of trucks from China usually.

If they are lost overboard at sea and recovered do they reuse them after the goods are disposed off?

And related to that - if I found one on a beach could I claim it as salvage, lot what those people did on that UK beach?

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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they're not worth much, there's a surplus of them in europe (we import more than we export)

Blib

44,074 posts

197 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Would a cup of tea with the teabag removed cool quicker than a similar cup with the teabag left in?

Thank you.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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teabag in the cup you say?

AstonZagato

12,703 posts

210 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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With or without a teaspoon?

Blib

44,074 posts

197 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Look, if you're not going to take my question seriously, I'm going to flounce. yes

Nimby

4,590 posts

150 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Blib said:
Would a cup of tea with the teabag removed cool quicker than a similar cup with the teabag left in?

Thank you.
I would think so. A lot of the cooling would be from convection currents bringing the hottest tea to the top where it cools by contact with the air and evaporation (latent heat loss). With a teabag floating at the top that would be much reduced.

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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surely then it depends on the orientation of the tea bag and depth within the tea?
sometimes they sink to the bottom, sometimes they float, sometimes they sit vertically, sometimes they list a bit.
I wonder what the thermal conductivity of a sodden tea bag is vis-a-vis tea?
Surely one assumes it to be lessened and thus of an insulating nature? scratchchin

Blib

44,074 posts

197 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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I was thinking that the tea bag would retain heat in the mass of the tea leaves. Like a radiator does.

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Radiators don't retain heat, they radiate it, hence the name tongue out
I don't think the mass of the leaves is greater than the mass of water it displaces, if anything the thermal capacity of water is greater, but it's also a better conductor (and a better convector, as it flows, being a fluid).
I would hypothesise that the chief thermal loss is due to convection currents in the air above the cup carrying heat away but convection currents in the tea would also need to carry heat from lower in the cup up to the tea/air boundary such that it can be transferred to the air and I hypothesise that the teabag would to some extent disrupt these currents and this I believe may slow the cooling.

RenesisEvo

3,608 posts

219 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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TheEnd said:
juan king said:


What are the vents for? Seen on the front corners of most tractor units
I believe they are for air control and to reduce drag. They don't go anywhere, just force some of the air to make a tighter corner as they go round the edge of the cab. Any air that has been splatted by the front face would get forced out sideways, and this would leave a low pressure area on the corners.

It looks like this grabs that air, and directs it along the side to get rid of that pocket.
I once did a study using CFD (computational fluid dynamics) and I was surprised at just how ineffective those were at reducing drag. They may help guide the air round the corner, but with a big enough radius on the corner (which it has) they don't really assist that much. You just can't get away from the big, bluff face and many rotating wheels without changes in legislation and working practices. The cynic in me wonders if they are simply there to appease the people who buy trucks to make them think the manufacturer is trying to reduce drag.

Blib

44,074 posts

197 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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scarble said:
Radiators don't retain heat, they radiate it, hence the name tongue out
paperbag

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