hand car washers (scratchers)

hand car washers (scratchers)

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j4ckos mate

Original Poster:

3,016 posts

171 months

Thursday 15th March 2012
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Im probably taking more notice now i have a nice car.

But the hand car wash over the road, wash the cars with the same rag or sponge in the same single motion then continue down the sills, over the wheels, doors, wings, roof without out it ever leaving the surface of the car, (unless its dropped on the floor),
its incredible, they range from 500 snotters to luxury sportscars.

the chamois gets thrown in a bucket and then then picked up to do the nexct car in the queue

who are these people that trust them to wash their car like this ?????

i do a panel at a time with two buckets and a mitt, then pb black hole then colli476,

i accept im probably a bit anal, but ive had to save up to pay for it, so i look after it.




ZakTroy

76 posts

148 months

Thursday 15th March 2012
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It tends to be people who view a car wash as a car wash. I know someone with a brand new F10? 5 series and he takes it to the 3.50 car wash weekly, no eye for swirl marks whatsoever and nearly choked upon me saying my detailer could do his car for 20. They don't understand what detailing is, or what the difference between TFR and PH neutral shampoo is.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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As long as its clean it's fine. If someone jet washed their house every week to get the bricks nice and clean you'd think they were nuts!

Cars no different to most of us.

Squiggs

1,520 posts

156 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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Tiggsy said:
As long as its clean it's fine. If someone jet washed their house every week to get the bricks nice and clean you'd think they were nuts!

Cars no different to most of us.
rofl

RedWater

485 posts

167 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Seen far too many nice motors being abused in this way - very painful. But as already stated, a lot of folk are just blind to the damage being done, how unnecessary it all is and how much better a car can be when looked after properly.

Worst thing is, I can't understand how there are so many 'car enthusiasts', that aren't more enthusiastic about their paintwork.

TX1

2,371 posts

184 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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I drive by these car washes and also wonder when I see some expensive motors being washed this way.
Apart from the swirls etc the wheel cleaner is usually an acid based cleaner, its like spraying oven cleaner on those wheels.

BE57 TOY

2,628 posts

148 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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If its a company car, lease or short term ownership of a new car they probably won't care. It'll always look nice in their 3 years!

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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BE57 TOY said:
If its a company car, lease or short term ownership of a new car they probably won't care. It'll always look nice in their 3 years!
This- 3 years and its gone, who cares about some paint swirls you can only see up close. You may as well start using a babywipe on the soles of your shoes whenever you go indoors.

7even

462 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Tiggsy said:
As long as its clean it's fine. If someone jet washed their house every week to get the bricks nice and clean you'd think they were nuts!

Cars no different to most of us.
Likin your thinkin wink

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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RedWater said:
Worst thing is, I can't understand how there are so many 'car enthusiasts', that aren't more enthusiastic about their paintwork.
Paint.
It's silent.
It's colour doesn't change the performance of the car.
It's existence doesn't realistically change the performance of the car. (Tiny weight saving)
It's not visible from inside where the enthusiast is.
It doesn't make the car more comfortable.
It's notoriously boring to watch dry.

It's only job is to stop the damn thing from rusting. And really it's done a poor job of that ever since the car was invented and someone slapped some paint on it.

It's just not important to a 'car enthusiast'. However if you are a cleaning/paint enthusiast I'm guessing it's right up there. But I suspect to the average car enthusiast, if paint could be got rid of, then it'd be one less thing to worry about on the car.

RedWater

485 posts

167 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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I suppose that's fair enough, but only with regard to a diesel Renault Megane estate company motor - but your pride and joy? Shouldn't one take pride in their pride and joy and revel in it looking at it's best, while the paint also benefits from a layer of protection?

StyleTechnik

145 posts

151 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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One local to me hd a nice black Aston Martin Vantage being given the 5 pound special

Pickled Piper

6,344 posts

236 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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StyleTechnik said:
One local to me hd a nice black Aston Martin Vantage being given the 5 pound special
That type of car may be something that would be cherished by most of us but the owner may have it as a Company Car on some type of lease. (Pher with multiple Directorships, perhaps?). In which case, as stated earlier, he will just use it for three years and hand back the keys.

One mans Pride and Joy is another mans daily smoker.

pp

JulesB

535 posts

160 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Munter said:
RedWater said:
Worst thing is, I can't understand how there are so many 'car enthusiasts', that aren't more enthusiastic about their paintwork.
Paint.
It's silent.
It's colour doesn't change the performance of the car.
It's existence doesn't realistically change the performance of the car. (Tiny weight saving)
It's not visible from inside where the enthusiast is.
It doesn't make the car more comfortable.
It's notoriously boring to watch dry.

It's only job is to stop the damn thing from rusting. And really it's done a poor job of that ever since the car was invented and someone slapped some paint on it.

It's just not important to a 'car enthusiast'. However if you are a cleaning/paint enthusiast I'm guessing it's right up there. But I suspect to the average car enthusiast, if paint could be got rid of, then it'd be one less thing to worry about on the car.
I get the feeling you are one of the odd few that didnt see anything wrong with the 'babysick gold' that they did the M3's in? Bit naive to say its only job is to stop it from rusting and FYI it hasnt done a poor job of stopping rust, it depends on the metal used to build teh car, how it was treated and more often than not its design flaws that cause cars to rust. Ive never met another motorist who said his/her car would be better off without paint smile

OldSkoolRS

6,754 posts

180 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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RedWater said:
I suppose that's fair enough, but only with regard to a diesel Renault Megane estate company motor - but your pride and joy? Shouldn't one take pride in their pride and joy and revel in it looking at it's best, while the paint also benefits from a layer of protection?
I went to the trouble of claying (not the whole car admitedly), glazing and waxing my new company car recently, I like to look after it even though ultimately it doesn't belong to me, though I'm sure some might think me crackers for taking a bit of pride in my car. I didn't take my previous one through a car wash in 3 years, though in the begining I did let the local supermarket hand car washers do it thinking (mistakenly) it might be better for the paintwork. I ended up polishing out the swirls they put on it and doing my best to keep it that way. For the last year or so I was the only one to wash it as the dealers never seemed to have time to clean it when it was being serviced (maybe no bad thing either seeing some cars that dealers have 'roughed up' in the name of customer service).

I sometimes have to leave it dirty for weeks at a time especially in winter, but I prefer to do that and then wash it carefully rather than let someone drag the salt and grit all over the paintwork, just so that it 'looks clean' (and covered in swirls of course).

Needless to say that our personal cars get even more care taken over their cleaning, even if I can't see the paintwork when driving them. smile


Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Get mine done once a year when it goes into Merc for a service!

Oldred_V8S

3,715 posts

239 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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StyleTechnik said:
One local to me hd a nice black Aston Martin Vantage being given the 5 pound special
shoot

jaf01uk

1,943 posts

197 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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ZakTroy said:
It tends to be people who view a car wash as a car wash. I know someone with a brand new F10? 5 series and he takes it to the 3.50 car wash weekly, no eye for swirl marks whatsoever and nearly choked upon me saying my detailer could do his car for 20. They don't understand what detailing is, or what the difference between TFR and PH neutral shampoo is.
To be fair they leave the factory with orange peel paint anyway so swirls would be the least of his worries.... biggrin

T1berious

2,266 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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As an enthusiast, I used to take my car to the local "scratchers", now got a car I care about, probably a little bit too much but now have started "detailing" and when I was there a few months back (Before the need for a decent polisher) I saw this......


tomvcarter

1,091 posts

194 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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Hi, after giving my car a through polish today, I noticed a number of scratches that have occurred from the last "valet" I had done... Nothing major, but just enought to annoy me! Now that I have realised the errors of my ways can this sort of damage be resolved at home? And what/how would I need to sort it?
Tks