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Kinky

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33,590 posts

149 months

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Well, kinda as the thread title suggests smile

Have a great day everyone drink

GTIR

22,987 posts

146 months

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Firstly Happy St Patrick's day to all the Irish. smile (and English)

I've done a lot of googling and I'm still non the wiser but is St Patrick Welsh or English?
There's plenty saying he was born in the "Welsh lands" but also that he was from near Northampton!
Also, when they say "Welsh" they don't mean the geographical Wales we know. It's not like he walked around scaring sheep and saying "Boyo" etc. smile

So is he actually English but that would be abhorrent to the Irish so the next best thing is Welsh?
Even if he is English what does that actually mean?

confused

(I know that he was captured by the Irish and held as a "slave" and escaped then got ordained then went back to Ireland etc)


ellroy

2,659 posts

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Wealch is the Anglo-Saxon for the native Brits, if i recall correctly, so saying he was from the Wealch lands could mean anywhere that was not held by the Anglo Saxons at the time.

In effect he could be Welch and born in Northampton.

Beannacht na File Pdraig!

bobskii

13,637 posts

89 months

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Happy Paddys day!

No idea about St Patrick, the chaps in the office reckon he was French or something (and they're all Irish).

smile


Eric Mc

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We're not even sure if Patrick was a single individual or based on a number of Romano British clerics who came to Ireland in the 5th century AD to convert the Irish. The name Patrick comes from the Roman class of Patrician, who were the upper middle classes of Roman society and, in the later Christian era of Roman civilisation, provided sons for the clergy. So "Patrick" could simply be a corruption of the name of the TYPE of people who were bringing Christianity to Ireland.
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cal216610

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50 months

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There are two documents by Patrick which are recognized by all parties as being genuine: his "Confession" or "Epistle to the Irish" and his epistle to the Christians under the cruel king, Coroticus. Then too, we should mention the Lorica or Hymn of Patrick, originally written in Latin and known as The Breastplate. These authentic writings in an irrefutable way support our convictions concerning the Apostle to the Irish.



Patrick, in his own "Confession" tells us that he was a Briton, not an Irishman. He first saw the light of day in the town of Dumbarton on the River Clyde in the south of Scotland about the year 389 A.D. His father was a Christian deacon and his grandfather a clergyman in the ancient church of Britain, which had never come under the yoke of Rome. These facts in themselves practically crush the claims of the papacy.

Taken from here,
http://www.reformedreader.org/history/patrick.htm


Eric Mc

74,213 posts

145 months

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We all know Patrick wasn't Irish.

Part of the legend is that he was kidnapped from Briton as a youngster by an Irish pirate (Niall of the Nine Hostages - I wonder who the other eight were?). During his imprisonment in Ireland he learned to love the Irish and developed the urge to convert them to Christianity. On his release, he trained as a cleric and eventually returned to Ireland to preach.

It's probably all a load of old blarney, to be honest.

sday12

4,341 posts

91 months

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Of course all this will be forgotten by midday as he becomes the patron saint of getting smashed.

Thom987

3,185 posts

46 months

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bobskii said:
No idea about St Patrick, the chaps in the office reckon he was French or something (and they're all Irish).
That is what we were led to believe.

L le Pdraig sona daoibh!

bobskii

13,637 posts

89 months

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Just reading up about the legend of St Patrick on the internet, it's interesting stuff.

Anyway, enough of this historical nonsense, who is having a beer tonight?

The company I work for is actually Irish and they are throwing a big party tonight. They have even flown down a band from Dublin for entertainment as well as lots of Guninness. They've even hoisted a big old Tricolour over the unit we're working on, much to the amusement of the locals!

smile

Thom987

3,185 posts

46 months

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Thom987 said:
bobskii said:
No idea about St Patrick, the chaps in the office reckon he was French or something (and they're all Irish).
That is what we were led to believe.

soad

17,719 posts

56 months

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bobskii said:
Anyway, enough of this historical nonsense, who is having a beer tonight?
That'll be me. beerdrinksmile

Plotloss

67,243 posts

150 months

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I suspect West London will be lively tonight when Ireland stick it up the English on Paddy's day.

Justayellowbadge

32,479 posts

122 months

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Plotloss said:
I suspect West London will be lively tonight when Ireland stick it up the English on Paddy's day.
Shut it, taff.

soda

1,130 posts

41 months

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Plotloss said:
I suspect West London will be lively tonight when Ireland stick it up the English on Paddy's day.
I'll be sitting in a bar in Belfast shortly to cheer them on.

With a suitable consumption of green Guinness to go with it smile

Plotloss

67,243 posts

150 months

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Justayellowbadge said:
Shut it, taff.
Alain Rolland will be getting it by proxy today.

The cheese eating surrender monkey bd.

Justayellowbadge

32,479 posts

122 months

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Still smarts, huh?

Although, to be fair, the word 'inconclusive' has been right pissing me off the last couple of weeks.

Plotloss

67,243 posts

150 months

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You'd have missed the conversion.

Therefore, the try should have been given.

JAHetfield

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29 months

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Beannachta na File Pdraig oraibh!

bobskii

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89 months

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Management have imported a projector and big screen to watch the match during our party. Should be interesting.

I'll stay near the bar out of the way!

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