F430 duplicate key cost / source

F430 duplicate key cost / source

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GrahamF430

Original Poster:

326 posts

163 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Hi folks,

I only have one key for my car and would ideally like a replacement key with the built-in remote locking (I assume I need to have the button to disable the alarm?).

Do I need to go to Ferrari for a replacement key?

Anyone have any indication of costs? It's a 2006 F430 Spider.


Thanks in advance.

Graham

F355GTS

3,721 posts

254 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Graham

you'll have to go to main dealer and they'll ask for proof of ownership/ address before they'll order one for you (take V5, driving licence etc)


kidasan

24 posts

145 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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I have the same problem and have been quoted £300.00 +

GrahamF430

Original Poster:

326 posts

163 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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kidasan said:
I have the same problem and have been quoted £300.00 +
Yeah, thought it might be....

Thanks guys.

j3gme

883 posts

193 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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£120 +vat

kidasan

24 posts

145 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Where can you get a key for £120 and does this price include setting up to your cars engine mobiliser.

GrahamF430

Original Poster:

326 posts

163 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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kidasan said:
Where can you get a key for £120 and does this price include setting up to your cars engine mobiliser.
Certainly not from Ferrari. Just called Graypaul (Edinburgh). They need proof of ownership documentation, chassis no. (etc...) plus the car to code it in, and the total cost is £336.00.

j3gme

883 posts

193 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Well I picked my 430 up yesterday from Meriden and they told me if I was to lose a key it wouldn't be a big deal, as all they need is the vin number to order a new key which would arrive all coded and ready to go for £120 + vat. Having said that I was very excited yesterday so perhaps I heard wrong, but I am sure that was the price!!!

GrahamF430

Original Poster:

326 posts

163 months

Thursday 19th April 2012
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j3gme said:
Well I picked my 430 up yesterday from Meriden and they told me if I was to lose a key it wouldn't be a big deal, as all they need is the vin number to order a new key which would arrive all coded and ready to go for £120 + vat. Having said that I was very excited yesterday so perhaps I heard wrong, but I am sure that was the price!!!
Would be interesting to know if you ever need to get one. Enjoy the car smile

VMLondon

562 posts

174 months

Thursday 19th April 2012
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j3gme said:
Well I picked my 430 up yesterday from Meriden and they told me if I was to lose a key it wouldn't be a big deal, as all they need is the vin number to order a new key which would arrive all coded and ready to go for £120 + vat. Having said that I was very excited yesterday so perhaps I heard wrong, but I am sure that was the price!!!
Not to doubt you, but the keys come cut to the car, but NOT programmed! You need to program them via SD3.

The process includes deleting all existing keys and re-programing the immobiliser transponder in the ones currently kept (ie deletes lost keys) and then programs the remote lock/unlocking.

Absoutey, totally no way the key would be good to go from the factory.

Only Ferrari main dealer can do this, even the specalists cannot program as it is not on the customer version of SD3.


100 IAN

1,091 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Many people are making it sound very easy, just take your V5 and proof of identity into Ferrari dealer etc. This was NOT WHAT I EXPERIENCED when i needed a 2nd key for my '98 456.

The dealer (Joe Macari in south London) ordered me a key from the car's VIN number but warned me that often Ferrari records didn't accurately show the correct key number. When the key arrived it didn't fit. They then ordered another and it too didn't fit. As a result they were not able to supply me a 2nd key - OH GREAT!

The parts manager said that they used to be able to order blank keys (My 456 has an old fashioned key without any built-in electronics and seperate alarm fob which fortunately i had 2x of) and then get them cut at the local key cutting shop but Ferrari would no longer supply blanks.

Joe Macari's were very apologetic and embarrassed and even showed me the letter they got from Ferrari UK and gave me the contact details of the person who wrote it and stated that it was Ferrari in Italy's policy to no longer supply blank keys. (Ferrari UK did suggest i replace all the locks on the car with a new set costing £££££'s!)

Eurospares on the other hand could supply me a blank but wanted £300, arrogantly telling me that i wouldn't be able to get one from Ferrari and £300 would be far cheaper than having to buy new locks if i lost the 1x key i had.

I was so insensed that i telephoned Ferrari UK and reminded them that those of us who buy older Ferrari's today are their potential customers for new cars tomorrow. Alienating them with such a policy is not good customer service, and why when they used to supply blanks had they then decided to stop?

They listened to my plea and agreed to 'make an exception' and supply a key to the dealer 'although it was strictly against Ferrari Italy's policy'.

When i went to collect it from the parts desk at Joe Macari's i was told it was FOC with Ferrari UK's apologies. The parts manager said it was the 1st time for a few years that they'd known of Ferrari UK supplying a new blank key.

The local key cutting shop charged about £5 to cut it. At last i had a spare, but it had taken some months of too'ing and fro'ing to get it.

I hope the OP gets a replacement key with less aggrivation than i experienced. BEST OF LUCK!

MJK 24

5,648 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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100 IAN said:
Many people are making it sound very easy, just take your V5 and proof of identity into Ferrari dealer etc. This was NOT WHAT I EXPERIENCED when i needed a 2nd key for my '98 456.

The dealer (Joe Macari in south London) ordered me a key from the car's VIN number but warned me that often Ferrari records didn't accurately show the correct key number. When the key arrived it didn't fit. They then ordered another and it too didn't fit. As a result they were not able to supply me a 2nd key - OH GREAT!

The parts manager said that they used to be able to order blank keys (My 456 has an old fashioned key without any built-in electronics and seperate alarm fob which fortunately i had 2x of) and then get them cut at the local key cutting shop but Ferrari would no longer supply blanks.

Joe Macari's were very apologetic and embarrassed and even showed me the letter they got from Ferrari UK and gave me the contact details of the person who wrote it and stated that it was Ferrari in Italy's policy to no longer supply blank keys. (Ferrari UK did suggest i replace all the locks on the car with a new set costing £££££'s!)

Eurospares on the other hand could supply me a blank but wanted £300, arrogantly telling me that i wouldn't be able to get one from Ferrari and £300 would be far cheaper than having to buy new locks if i lost the 1x key i had.

I was so insensed that i telephoned Ferrari UK and reminded them that those of us who buy older Ferrari's today are their potential customers for new cars tomorrow. Alienating them with such a policy is not good customer service, and why when they used to supply blanks had they then decided to stop?

They listened to my plea and agreed to 'make an exception' and supply a key to the dealer 'although it was strictly against Ferrari Italy's policy'.

When i went to collect it from the parts desk at Joe Macari's i was told it was FOC with Ferrari UK's apologies. The parts manager said it was the 1st time for a few years that they'd known of Ferrari UK supplying a new blank key.

The local key cutting shop charged about £5 to cut it. At last i had a spare, but it had taken some months of too'ing and fro'ing to get it.

I hope the OP gets a replacement key with less aggrivation than i experienced. BEST OF LUCK!
If the key for a 456 doesn't have an imobilliser chip in built, did you consider taking your existing key to a local key cutter? Whilst you'd have just ended up with a blank metal key without any Ferrari branding, this would surely have been acceptable as a spare key? I'd be staggered if the 'blank' isn't identical to a period Fiat Group product.

The policy of Ferrari Italy to not supply a blank is as unhelpful as it is ludicrous! I would have been equally as frustrated!

GrahamF430

Original Poster:

326 posts

163 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Interesting reading - thanks.
Well, I'll pop in to Ferrari Edinburgh soon enough and let you know the outcome. It certainly didn't pose any problems on the phone, but as is usual with this kind of car, one has to expect the unexpected.

Thanks again
Graham

355spiderguy

1,476 posts

170 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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£12....

take out a stand alone key insurance policy...yearly premium £12.00

i'm sure it covers upto 3 claims a year with a max claim of £1500 per year...no excess.

pretty handy when i lost my spare set of keys last year as the replacement including programming was just under £350.00...

as it was a stand alone policy did not have any effect on car / house insurance renewals.

i'm sure it is with boomerang-tag or something.

100 IAN

1,091 posts

161 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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MJK 24 said:
If the key for a 456 doesn't have an imobilliser chip in built, did you consider taking your existing key to a local key cutter? Whilst you'd have just ended up with a blank metal key without any Ferrari branding, this would surely have been acceptable as a spare key? I'd be staggered if the 'blank' isn't identical to a period Fiat Group product.

The policy of Ferrari Italy to not supply a blank is as unhelpful as it is ludicrous! I would have been equally as frustrated!
No, blank was unique to Ferrari, but immobiliser key fob was same as Ford

JazzyO

1,125 posts

180 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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MJK 24 said:
If the key for a 456 doesn't have an imobilliser chip in built, did you consider taking your existing key to a local key cutter?
Good point. But you can also order blank Enzo keys on the internet, no reason why they shouldn't work once cut.


Onno

johnnyreggae

2,930 posts

159 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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MJK 24 said:
If the key for a 456 doesn't have an imobilliser chip in built, did you consider taking your existing key to a local key cutter? Whilst you'd have just ended up with a blank metal key without any Ferrari branding, this would surely have been acceptable as a spare key? I'd be staggered if the 'blank' isn't identical to a period Fiat Group product.
Ricambi (US Ferrari parts specialist)agree and show this standard blank http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?pro... which means there's a Silca in the UK

DavidCBevan

347 posts

184 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Hi Graham,

Did you get any luck with your replacement key?

I am in the EXACT same position, before I take a trip to Lancaster Ferrari Colchester (to be spoken down to) I wondered what route you went down in the end regarding replacement key?

Thanks and best regards

David

rog007

5,748 posts

223 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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355spiderguy said:
...as it was a stand alone policy did not have any effect on car / house insurance renewals...
All insurance policies are 'stand alone' as far as I'm aware? When insuring anything in the future you may be asked if you have ever claimed, not just linked to the thing you're trying to insure. For example, you are usually asked if you have had any accidents or claims in the last so many years - answer that honestly no matter whether it is a car, van, motorcycle or whatever or risk invalidating your insurance policy.