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Fantuzzi
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1,516 posts
16 months
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A while ago when the 8C Competizione was fresh and new in 2007 there were many rumours of a more track focused version of the competizione, mabye even a GT3 spee car coming.
They said it would be 458 quick, they said it would be only made in a batch of 100, yet still no news.
Now its 2012, and although I've seen some rather promising teaser pics of a lovely behind, and still no word on what looked like a rather amazing car.
Any body have any info that might cheer me up?
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V6GTA
1,071 posts
67 months
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Fantuzzi said: A while ago when the 8C Competizione was fresh and new in 2007 there were many rumours of a more track focused version of the competizione, mabye even a GT3 spee car coming.
They said it would be 458 quick, they said it would be only made in a batch of 100, yet still no news.
Now its 2012, and although I've seen some rather promising teaser pics of a lovely behind, and still no word on what looked like a rather amazing car.
Any body have any info that might cheer me up? It's very unlikely. Maserati are building the 4C and all the efforts are concentrated on that at the moment. Also the 8C didn't handle all that well so you are better off buying a regular 8C and then playing with it's setup.
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Fantuzzi
Original Poster
1,516 posts
16 months
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V6GTA said: It's very unlikely. Maserati are building the 4C and all the efforts are concentrated on that at the moment. Also the 8C didn't handle all that well so you are better off buying a regular 8C and then playing with it's setup. True, I was epecting that, but thought Id check if there was any rumours still lurking. On the dynamics issue, it seemed that the car was good but lacked the polish of rivals, shame really because Alfa could have been on to a winner. Of course you make a car in 500 batches it dosnt have to handle well to sell, especially when it looked like that. Cant wait for the 4c, hopefully they will make a GT4 spec...
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WTFWT
505 posts
93 months
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The biggest problem with the idea of the GTA car is trying to find where the weight savings would come from. The whole body of the standard car is carbonfibre, as is the whole interior and the seats are super thin carbon jobbies. There really is very little to an 8c - not much inside and very limited options to change anything outside. You might find 30kg with different wheels and ceramic brakes, but hardly enough to call it a GTA.
Sadly, the Clarkson review has tarnished the general public's view of the handling to the point that is all people want to talk about. The reality, as other have observed, is that initially Dallara were hired to do all the development. They started work on the suspension pick up points etc and had a pretty good idea where they were going with the set-up when they were told that all cars had been pre-sold and they could stop their work. Alfa finished it off.
The reality is that Dallara knew where they were going, and if you ask nicely, will point you in the right direction. Custom springs and dampers, correctly set up, transform the car. You could argue that for the money it should be perfect out of the box. But, this is a limited edition concept-for-the-road supercar. Dream on. An additional investment of approx 10% of purchase price finishes the job and completes the car.
I'll write up a longer story of the way the 8C was set up and how it should have been done when I have some more time. I've learned quite a lot about it over the past few years.
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James Dean
1,141 posts
35 months
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WTFWT said: The biggest problem with the idea of the GTA car is trying to find where the weight savings would come from. The whole body of the standard car is carbonfibre, as is the whole interior and the seats are super thin carbon jobbies. There really is very little to an 8c - not much inside and very limited options to change anything outside. You might find 30kg with different wheels and ceramic brakes, but hardly enough to call it a GTA.
Sadly, the Clarkson review has tarnished the general public's view of the handling to the point that is all people want to talk about. The reality, as other have observed, is that initially Dallara were hired to do all the development. They started work on the suspension pick up points etc and had a pretty good idea where they were going with the set-up when they were told that all cars had been pre-sold and they could stop their work. Alfa finished it off.
The reality is that Dallara knew where they were going, and if you ask nicely, will point you in the right direction. Custom springs and dampers, correctly set up, transform the car. You could argue that for the money it should be perfect out of the box. But, this is a limited edition concept-for-the-road supercar. Dream on. An additional investment of approx 10% of purchase price finishes the job and completes the car.
I'll write up a longer story of the way the 8C was set up and how it should have been done when I have some more time. I've learned quite a lot about it over the past few years. Very interesting, hadn't heard about that before. I'm certainly very interested about hearing more 
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Fantuzzi
Original Poster
1,516 posts
16 months
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WTFWT said: The biggest problem with the idea of the GTA car is trying to find where the weight savings would come from. The whole body of the standard car is carbonfibre, as is the whole interior and the seats are super thin carbon jobbies. There really is very little to an 8c - not much inside and very limited options to change anything outside. You might find 30kg with different wheels and ceramic brakes, but hardly enough to call it a GTA.
Sadly, the Clarkson review has tarnished the general public's view of the handling to the point that is all people want to talk about. The reality, as other have observed, is that initially Dallara were hired to do all the development. They started work on the suspension pick up points etc and had a pretty good idea where they were going with the set-up when they were told that all cars had been pre-sold and they could stop their work. Alfa finished it off.
The reality is that Dallara knew where they were going, and if you ask nicely, will point you in the right direction. Custom springs and dampers, correctly set up, transform the car. You could argue that for the money it should be perfect out of the box. But, this is a limited edition concept-for-the-road supercar. Dream on. An additional investment of approx 10% of purchase price finishes the job and completes the car.
I'll write up a longer story of the way the 8C was set up and how it should have been done when I have some more time. I've learned quite a lot about it over the past few years. Thank you for info, never knew about the Dallara controbution, great to know if I find a Rembrandt in my loft I'll ask them nicey!;) Any chance you could write up the story of what should have been a future classic, Ive been staring at the 8C since 2007 so no rush. Thanks once again for the info.
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S10 GTA
2,653 posts
37 months
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It was canned, along with the Mito and 159 GTA due to the recession.
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2skiddy
289 posts
86 months
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I would love to see one of these as a proper track day car with a few subtle (or not) mods, has anyone done it? 19" or 18" wheels and some slicks would be tempting. Shame the car is so expensive at the moment, or is that a good thing? Please keep the not so publicised technical stuff coming, as I already know it looks a beauty!!!!
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