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AdamV8V

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429 posts

25 months

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Tuesday 17th April 2012 quote quote all
Hello chaps and chapesses.

One of the first things I’ll be doing with my new drop-top pride & joy is a French roadtrip smile

Problem is, the car buying process was much more fun than journey planning, and the only things I have sorted are the car and the dates (eleven days from 5th – 15th May inclusive. Yes, two weeks away).

Between my better half and I, the main things we’d like to cover are:

- Great roads (esp want to do Route Napoleon and, if poss, the Millau Viaduct)
- Vineyards
- A couple of beach days
- A track day (if possible)
- Good, authentic French cuisine and accommodation (a bit of luxury would be nice, but without breaking “la banque”)

The rough plan is a clock-wise loop, heading down to Reims from Calais and then Burgundy (prob staying in Beaune).

Then from Grenoble to the Route Napoleon. Take the N85 down to south coast, across to Provence and, time permitting, Gorges du Verdon.

Then to the South West, stopping off in Toulouse for a day or two (I lived there for a year, so to check out some old haunts and friends). From there, over to Bordeaux and up past Il de Re, through the Dordogne, Loire Valley and head back towards the North coast to catch a ferry / tunnel back to Blighty.

If anybody has any top-tips on roads to take, places to stay or things to do, I’d be eternally grateful. If you have used a similar itinerary and are happy to share, please do so!

They day we leave (May 5th) is my girlfriend’s birthday, so I’d like to do something nice in the Champagne region. Any thoughts on champagne house tour / restaurant would be great!

Thanks in advance.
Adam

George H

10,276 posts

33 months

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Tuesday 17th April 2012 quote quote all
If you can organise being at Barcelona on the 11th-13th you could go to the Spanish Grand Prix. I went last year and it was fantastic. Highly recommend you sit in stand C near the chicane, that's where I sat and it gives a great view of about 7 corners. Much better than doing a track day in France imo! smile

Niki M

85 posts

16 months

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Chateau D'Etoges south of Reims is a great place to stay. Prices are very reasonable for accommodation with a great restaurant. Couple of champagne houses in walking distance and only a short drive to some beautiful villages all surrounded by many vineyards. We went for a couple of days in early August last year in our V8V and had a great time. On drive home, went to Taittinger cellars in Reims - great tour and I believe that the tour is free if you're a member of AMOC.

Enjoy yor trip :-)

yeti

6,965 posts

144 months

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Tuesday 17th April 2012 quote quote all
Hi Adam, just done something similar but in a much shorter time frame!

Calais-Reims-Beaune on day one, but taking the old Dijon Road, the D996. Lovely road!! Stayed here http://www.lecedre-beaune.com/uk/index.php and ate in their restaurant as arrived late. Terrific bar, excellent Martini (Plymouth and Noilly Prat, olives).

Beane-Grenoble-Route Napoleon-Nice on day two. The N85 is one of the world's great roads, just stunning! The only thing I would change would be avoiding Gap, we hit it at Friday rush hour and it took almost an hour to get across! Bypass it if possible.

Chilled in Nice and Monte Carlo for 2 days, the coast road between them is gorgeous, not a fast drive but a very scenic one. Casino is great, also a top notch Martini using, of all things, Martini. The gin I had bever heard of. Lemon peel.

The group then drove to Clermont-Ferrand on day 5 (nothing special, just a halfway point) but they went through Verdon and across the Millau, reported as being stunning but they got caught in snow!! This was Sunday!!

I had to drop Mrs Yeti off at Nice airport Sunday so just did the autoroutes very, very quickly, via Marseille and Lyon. As autoroutes go, just stunning scenery, really enjoyed the drive through the mountains!

Clermont Ferrand to Etoges on day 6 (near Epernay) and stayed here http://www.etoges.com/ Can't recommend it highly enough, including an amazing dinner in the attached Orangerie. Sampled the local brew before and after dinner from here http://www.champagnes-ruffin.com/Champagne_Ruffin_... which was just round the corner. No time for a tour as wanted to get back a decent time and also felt a little delicate this morning, but they do them. We had 2 bottles of the 1998 and it was excellent and reasonably priced. After two failed attempts at a Martini, I gave up. Awful and they were most apologetic as they knew it.

One thing that's fun is driving round the champagne region avoiding autoroutes. Some of the little roads you can bomb along are a hoot and not another car in sight. Much fun was had and the principle applies to everywhere in France really.

Then the good old A26 back to the chunnel smile

I'd also recommend getting the toll tag https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/ I wish I'd had it, feel like a git getting out and walking round the car to collect tickets or pay the fee. Everyone else had one and they all ended up waiting for me at every toll.

Set cruise at 85-87mph and never be troubled by le plod - you'll get there 10mins later and a lot less stressed. Zero tolerance nowadays, and 150kph seems to be the point of no return it seems. However, one of our group was pulled and fined 90Eu last year and none of us were speeding, he just looked fast as was in a 550! Le plod figured he would have been speeding at some point... and he'd have been right.

Enjoy and hope some of that is relevant to you.




yeti

6,965 posts

144 months

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Niki M said:
Chateau D'Etoges south of Reims is a great place to stay.
Yup smile

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oblio

3,002 posts

96 months

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Wednesday 18th April 2012 quote quote all
We are doing

Folkestone - Beaune - Castellane (2 nights) - Briancon(2) - Annecy(3) - Gerardmer - Gosnay - home

in July smile

Happy to share my research/routes etc with anyone.

Started researching at Xmas getmecoat




AdamV8V

Original Poster:

429 posts

25 months

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Wednesday 18th April 2012 quote quote all
Thanks everyone for your advice.

Lewis - toll tag has been ordered, great tip thanks and appreciate the long write-up (incl Martini critiques drink)

Niki / Lewis - Etoges looks lovely so will book this. Was planning to stay the first night in Beaune, but this looks great and I don't think my girlfriend will want to spend 6 hours in the car on her birthday, so will look to make up the time later in the trip.

Niki - I checked and AMOC membership does indeed get you a free tour at Taitinger. Result!

Oblio - will send you a PM for your itinerary smile

Any more for any more?


Neil1300R

2,866 posts

47 months

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Don't forget the obvious, a quick 'pit' stop at Reims circuit for the obligatory pictures. The girlfriend may not appreciate it but it's very atmospheric. Not too far off the main route

Mac355

56 posts

98 months

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Wednesday 18th April 2012 quote quote all
Hi Yeti,
I go up and down to Burgundy a lot during the year, but usually stick to the A26 for time.
Where do you join the D996 and how much time do you reckon it adds to a Beaune trip?
Cheers
Alan

yeti said:
Calais-Reims-Beaune on day one, but taking the old Dijon Road, the D996. Lovely .

One thing that's fun is driving round the champagne region avoiding autoroutes. Some of the little roads you can bomb along are a hoot and not another car in sight. Much fun was had and the principle applies to everywhere in France really.

Then the good old A26 back to the chunnel smile

I'd also recommend getting the toll tag https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/ I wish I'd had it, feel like a git getting out and walking round the car to collect tickets or pay the fee. Everyone else had one and they all ended up waiting for me at every toll.

Set cruise at 85-87mph and never be troubled by le plod - you'll get there 10mins later and a lot less stressed. Zero tolerance nowadays, and 150kph seems to be the point of no return it seems. However, one of our group was pulled and fined 90Eu last year and none of us were speeding, he just looked fast as was in a 550! Le plod figured he would have been speeding at some point... and he'd have been right.

Enjoy and hope some of that is relevant to you.

oblio

3,002 posts

96 months

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Friday 20th April 2012 quote quote all
yeti said:
I'd also recommend getting the toll tag https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/ I wish I'd had it, feel like a git getting out and walking round the car to collect tickets or pay the fee. Everyone else had one and they all ended up waiting for me at every toll.
I got one of these for our summer trip as we have always been jealous of the locals just powering through whilst we were trying to reach out with our €'s. The misses struggles to reach out sometimes so has to open the door which has resulted in the odd 'clunk' as it hits the raised kerb (NOT in the DB9 - extra careful there wink ).

We are only planning the one trip this year but if it can save us 30mins across several toll stations I reckon it's worth it yes

Had the first bill the other day for the set up charge and rental charge! After that it's something like €6 for each month you actually use it (up to a maximum of 2 months charge I believe) plus the tolls themselves.

I also double checked that they don't share info regarding speed between booths with les flics as well smile

mikey k

6,453 posts

85 months

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Might have a look at one for my September jaunt, though I tend to avoid the toll roads anyway driving

George H

10,276 posts

33 months

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Friday 20th April 2012 quote quote all
mikey k said:
Might have a look at one for my September jaunt, though I tend to avoid the toll roads anyway driving
Same here, I've heard stories that they time you from the start to the end and can incorparate a fine into the cost if you arrive there too quickly. Don't know how true that is though, definitely isn't on the M6 toll smile

Jockman

7,094 posts

29 months

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Friday 20th April 2012 quote quote all
George H said:
Same here, I've heard stories that they time you from the start to the end and can incorparate a fine into the cost if you arrive there too quickly. Don't know how true that is though, definitely isn't on the M6 toll smile
Toll roads are excellent, and are only avoided by girls !!

I believe the claim to be monitored from start to finish is an old wives' tale smile

LordBretSinclair

2,041 posts

46 months

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Friday 20th April 2012 quote quote all
mikey k said:
Might have a look at one for my September jaunt, though I tend to avoid the toll roads anyway driving
Moi aussi, much prefer the N roads smile

mikey k

6,453 posts

85 months

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Friday 20th April 2012 quote quote all
Jockman said:
Toll roads are excellent, and are only avoided by girls !!
Care to follow me down these wink


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johng39

1,795 posts

29 months

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Friday 20th April 2012 quote quote all
Definately get the TAG as I kerbed a wheel trying to get close enough for the MRS to pay for the Toll. The timing between booths is an urban myth as I have travelled between them at more than 150 KPH and nothing has transpired. Obviously keep an eye out for le plod as they will obviously fine you if they can. Obviously I would never condone speeding.....

Mac355

56 posts

98 months

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Sunday 22nd April 2012 quote quote all
Bump...
Calling Yeti???
A
Mac355 said:

yeti

6,965 posts

144 months

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Sunday 22nd April 2012 quote quote all
Mac355 said:
Bump...
Calling Yeti???
Ay up! This is the route we took, click the link and it takes you onto Google maps http://g.co/maps/9a6d8

You can also stay on the A26 beyond Reims and join the D996 later and save an hour. Overall, probably 2-3hrs extra to Beaune and I would cut out the last bits as well, the roads get quite rough! Hope that helps smile

Mac355

56 posts

98 months

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Sunday 22nd April 2012 quote quote all
Merci Beaucoup!

I now have to try to manage a more leisurely trip than I usually allow myself.
We have a holiday home just outside Beaune, and I always end up clogging it down via the A26.
This route sounds like a bit more of an "event".
The A26 is a good road, but a bit short on interest....
Do you find that you can keep up a decent pace on the D996?
Alan

AdamV8V

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429 posts

25 months

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Saturday 5th May 2012 quote quote all
Turning in for the night after a fantastic dinner at Chateau d'Etoges and a tour at the Taittinger cellars (free with AMOC membership) at Reims earlier.

Tomorrow is the long schlep to Grenoble, via Route de Dijon and then lots of boring AutoRoute.

Thanks everyone for the tips so far!


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