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Driller

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qube_TA

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No sound so don't know what was said, however Tyson is great, I listen to his Podcast often.

Hugely excited about the prospect of his new series/remake of Cosmos, the original which remains the best thing ever to be on the telly




shakotan

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An interesting theory, certainly.

Driller

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I'll watch out for that, thanks smile

I like his style, he has a good sense of humour.

TheHeretic

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My only gripe against Tyson is he seems very 'me,me,me' when interviewed. It's hard to put my finger on it, but he just comes across that way. Looking forward to Cosmos though. How it will stack up against the original has yet to be seen. Sagan is a hard a t to follow if you are going to do a 'remake'.
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qube_TA

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can't think of anyone else that could do it.

He doesn't have the same gravitas as Sagan but is certainly passionate and authoritative about the subject.

I recently re-watched the original programmes and they're still absolutely blinding, when you compare them to the modern tosh we get from Brian 'in't space brilliant?' Cox I hope Tyson is allowed to make something special.


CommanderJameson

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This is a good example of why I like Tyson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDFgLS3sdpU

TheHeretic

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CommanderJameson said:
This is a good example of why I like Tyson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDFgLS3sdpU
Don't get me wrong, the guy is superb, as that clip shows, (in fact, I wish more public science types would say that sort of thing). He still gets hate mail for Pluto. hehe

Driller

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Was he the one who suggested removing it's planet status then?

Liking this bloke more and more after the above vid smile

TheHeretic

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Driller said:
Was he the one who suggested removing it's planet status then?

Liking this bloke more and more after the above vid smile
He was vocal on the issue, not sure if he was the thought behind it. He certainly led that thinking at his institute, (can't remember the name).

qube_TA

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qube_TA

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Watched the clip now, I like Tyson and enjoyed this one. I didn't find the idea disturbing though, I guess no-one else here did either. But it was certainly interesting.

I would hope that if there is ET-T elsewhere in the universe and if we do encounter it then there would be at least half a chance we could communicate.

However, I'm sure that genetics and biology will advance sufficiently over the next century that we'll be able to create modified DNA to not only create people who're immune to a lot of the diseases and illnesses and whatnot that this species struggles with but that we're able to modify it to improve the abilities of the species, this would include sufficiently improving the human brain so that hopefully if we're too 'stupid' to figure out a lot of the questions posed by science then these new breed of human-2.0 will.



Driller

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His argument using the 1% DNA difference is certainly compelling (and fascinating).

Don't you find though, the idea that some extra-terrestrial life could consider us no more interesting than we would find a garden worm, even remotely disturbing?

Zaxxon

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A good vid in ways, but disturbing? No. Amazing? No.
It's pretty obvious that there is a very high possibility that there are species out there that are vastly superior to us in every way?

Seeing how we have treated chimps and other lower intelligence species in the past makes the invasion of a superior alien race seem a bit grim.


Fancy being carried naked by an alien photographer on the beach for photo's with tourist alien families? smile

CommanderJameson

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Zaxxon said:
Fancy being carried naked by an alien photographer on the beach for photo's with tourist alien families? smile
Rule 34 is way ahead of you.

Driller

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Zaxxon said:
A good vid in ways, but disturbing? Seeing how we have treated chimps and other lower intelligence species in the past makes the invasion of a superior alien race seem a bit grim.
The disturbing bit is not important, it was just an interesting vid, although I agree with him that it is.

Imagine another race who had as much power over us as we have over garden worms. We would be utterly helpless but also feel utterly inconsequential next to them. Our greatest achievements would pale into insignificance next to theirs.

Does grim not equate in any way to disturbing? At any rate your beach analogy certainly does!biggrin

qube_TA

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Driller said:
His argument using the 1% DNA difference is certainly compelling (and fascinating).

Don't you find though, the idea that some extra-terrestrial life could consider us no more interesting than we would find a garden worm, even remotely disturbing?
I couldn't see that ever taking place, unless the ET's were aware of lots of other ET's of varying degrees of intelligence and therefore our abilities were therefore commonplace and insignificant. However, from our own observations this is unlikely as intelligent life seems to be fairly rare, as we've never seen any evidence for it.

If another species on this planet discovered fire, then it would be hugely significant and would demonstrate a significant leap in intelligence, we'd be all over it, yet fire is fairly basic to us. Given how rare life seems to be and particularly how rare life that can fly from one planet to a moon is or send probes out over its Solar System, I can't imaging any ET not finding that at least curious.



shakotan

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qube_TA said:
Given how rare life seems to be and particularly how rare life that can fly from one planet to a moon is or send probes out over its Solar System, I can't imaging any ET not finding that at least curious.
This is the entire point he's making. To US, life appears rare because we haven't found it anywhere else than the microscopic amount of the Universe that we've searched thus far. To another intellegence, 1% greater than us, life could appear abundant in millions of different planets across THEIR known Universe.

The fact we can send machines to the moon and out across such a small and insignificant area as a single Solar System could appear as mundane to that other race as to the ability to put one foot in front of the other without falling over.


Edited by shakotan on Thursday 19th April 11:23

Driller

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You mucked up the quotes a bit Shakotan but you said exactly what I was going to smile

shakotan

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Driller said:
You mucked up the quotes a bit Shakotan but you said exactly what I was going to smile
Oops, fixed!

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