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paulathome

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654 posts

106 months

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Sunday 22nd April 2012 quote quote all
OK guys,
I've stripped the car down ready for the big lift. Exhaust off, petrol tank out, all body bolts out, wiring removed and hand brake cable off. Engine bay wiring and pipework undone and labeled.
My questions are.....
1 what size tubing for out riggers?
2 what sise tube to slide inside out rigger tubes?
3 what size tube for seat belt mounts on out rigger side?
4 what thickness plate for corners of out riggers? (triangular bits)
5 Any recommended hot zink coaters and powder coaters around Manchester?

There has been some quality rebuilds on here the last few months so I've learnt alot and looking
forward to the job.
Any info gratefully received.
Plenty of chassis porn to follow I'm sure.
Paul.

Barreti

5,697 posts

125 months

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Monday 23rd April 2012 quote quote all
This shows you the tube sizes I used and I think I still have an offcut of the corner plates I can measure for you.
The tube inside was a very very tight fit so I have no hesitation in recommending these sizes.

paulathome

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654 posts

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Tuesday 24th April 2012 quote quote all
Thats just what I needed, cheers Ian.
The corner plate measurements could be useful but its mainly just the thickness I'm after.
Need to get all materials together ready to cut to size, then hire the Mig welder.
Thanks again.
Paul.

EGB

1,677 posts

45 months

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Tuesday 24th April 2012 quote quote all
Get the tubes galvanized. No more worries ????

Barreti

5,697 posts

125 months

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Tuesday 24th April 2012 quote quote all
No prob Paul, I'd forgotten about the corner plate so I'll get that tomorrow.

When I said the inside tube was very very tight I meant with the existing chassis tube.

FYI, a couple of tips.
I didn't cut the diagonal in the rear wheel arch. By grinding at the weld with the horizontal tube underneath it I could make it fit onto the new horizontal tube nicely.
When I cut the horizontal tubes I threw loads of kurust into the bits left. Left it to dry then hammered the new tube into place.
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Twistygit

503 posts

41 months

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Wednesday 25th April 2012 quote quote all
just out of curiosity how much roughly was the steel to do the outriggers?
thanks

nerobo

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69 months

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Thursday 26th April 2012 quote quote all
Barreti said:
This shows you the tube sizes I used and I think I still have an offcut of the corner plates I can measure for you.
The tube inside was a very very tight fit so I have no hesitation in recommending these sizes.
Where did you get the steel from?
Graeme

Barreti

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125 months

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Thursday 26th April 2012 quote quote all
I have a mate who is a welder at a local steel company. He got all the steel for me and did the welding thumbup

The steel I used for corner plates is 3mm thick and 95mm wide.

There are actually 2 different widths of corner plates if you look under the car.

60mm for the two plates which come off the square centre chassis to the front / back horizontals in the wheel arches (these are factory as I cut the horizontals in the wheel arches about half way between the square chassis and where the diagonal down tube meets it)

I created/opened up the holes on the 95mm corner plates so there is a hole in each inside corner big enough for me to stick my little finger through
I did this as the main problem seems to have been where crud has got over the corner plates and sat in the crevices.
Now I can poke my finger in and clean them out.

I used tipex to write the location on each corner plate then photographed it before cutting it.
I also measured everything very carefully using the square centre chassis as a point of reference.

When cutting, I used a 1mm cutting blade in the grinder and kept everything I took off so I could piece it together off the car in case I needed measurements.
Offcuts from the new plates were kept and used inside the car under the bolts as strengtheners as only farty little washers were used by the factory.

There is an awkward corner plate to the centre tube.
Its awkward because the car floor has a recess to fit over it. So measure this one carefully. You're see which one I mean because its a strange shape too.

Hope that helps.
IanB

mart 63

630 posts

132 months

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Thursday 26th April 2012 quote quote all
Twistygit said:
just out of curiosity how much roughly was the steel to do the outriggers?
thanks
Did my outriggers on cerb a couple of weeks ago.Same size tubes as Barreti,£16 for 6m of outside tube about the same for the sleave.They only did the plate 4ft by 8ft for £50.So went to scrap yard,they had loads of off cuts,so the plate cost £1.Got the tube from FWB dont know if they are nation wide.

Mart

mart 63

630 posts

132 months

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Thursday 26th April 2012 quote quote all
paulathome said:
OK guys,
I've stripped the car down ready for the big lift. Exhaust off, petrol tank out, all body bolts out, wiring removed and hand brake cable off. Engine bay wiring and pipework undone and labeled.
My questions are.....
1 what size tubing for out riggers?
2 what sise tube to slide inside out rigger tubes?
3 what size tube for seat belt mounts on out rigger side?
4 what thickness plate for corners of out riggers? (triangular bits)
5 Any recommended hot zink coaters and powder coaters around Manchester?

There has been some quality rebuilds on here the last few months so I've learnt alot and looking
forward to the job.
Any info gratefully received.
Plenty of chassis porn to follow I'm sure.
Paul.
Had a qoute the other week for a beadblast,zinc primer and powdercoat at £150+vat for the cerb chassis.
Dont know how to do a link but its wrexhammetalfinishing

SSPPGG

1,944 posts

90 months

M@H

11,215 posts

160 months

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Thursday 26th April 2012 quote quote all
If the body is completely off then why bother with cutting and sleeving, why not take the outriggers off at the main chassis spine and weld in whole new ones from there? It's only going to be a few extra ft of tube. smile. You can buy full outriggers for diy fitment too rather than make them up from tube and plate.

paulathome

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654 posts

106 months

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Friday 27th April 2012 quote quote all
Thanks guys for all the info. The company in Wrexham looks good, will ring in the next week or two.
I'm thinking of hot zink coating then powder coating so the company in wrexham looks the best I've seen
so far unless someone know better.
The ready made out riggers are a silly price for a few feet of tube welded together. I have access to a MIG welder and can weld so it's a no brainer for me to make my own.
Hopefully if the weather is good in the next week the body should be off to see the state of play, although the drivers side front out rigger has been tested with a screw driver and hammer and it's not good news as it went staight through the corner welds.
Paul.
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