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Shuvi McTupya

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17,753 posts

116 months

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I recently paid for a training course through a company i won't name (on this thread) for the time being.

When i first made contact with them they said there was a course available the next week, so i signed up and paid.

They sent out a training pack and a thing for me to sign and send back, which i did, but i didn't receive specific info on the course, EG the exact location and start time etc.

I started to get concerned so i called them up and got told they would phone me back..they didn't.

I called again and got told it looked like there may have been some mistake as it would appear i was not booked on the course but they would look into it and call me back..they didn't.

The next day i called then again and was told by someone else that the problem was that the trainer had broken his leg...my bullst alarm is now ringing loudly. They then tell me there is another course available that started four days later, which i agreed too as they already have my money and it could have just been a mistake and a silly lie to cover it.

I then don't receive the location and start time for the second course so i start calling the up and getting the run around again until yesterday when they finally tell me that they are no longer dealing with that training facility
but they will try and get me on a course within a month...

At this point i told them i would like a refund and was told they would keep half the money if i cancelled more than 7 days after payment, even if i cancelled because they were not holding up their end of the bargain!!

Having read their T's and C's, that is what they seem to say.

Surely that can't be legal?

All they have to do is promise you a course that starts 8 days after you pay, and by the time you suspect you are being blagged, they get to legally keep half the money if you cancel?

I am tempted to take them to small claims court and look else where for training, rather than wait another month to find out for sure if they are just stringing me along.

Advice?





Edited by Shuvi McTupya on Wednesday 2nd May 08:37

toby9980

65 posts

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They will all stick to what they want to stick to. I am trying to get my money back for a computer course I paid up front for and then the company went bankrupt. Been to the financial ombudsman who seem to be very selective as they have got refunds for certain people in the same boat but not others. Its a significant amount too.

Shuvi McTupya

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This company has not gone bust, and i seem to be the only person talking about them on the internet, so i don't think they do this to everybody.

I am just sick off all the lies, and lack of contact.


CYMR0

1,986 posts

69 months

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1. Did you pay by credit card?

2. Did you deal as a consumer or as a self-employed business person?


JustinP1

10,276 posts

99 months

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Your contract with them was for the date you specified. That is just as much part of the contract as their T&Cs.

They can't fulfil that - they are in breach.

How much money are we talking about?
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Shuvi McTupya

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CYMR0 said:
1. Did you pay by credit card?

2. Did you deal as a consumer or as a self-employed business person?
I paid by debit card, as a consumer.

Shuvi McTupya

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JustinP1 said:
Your contract with them was for the date you specified. That is just as much part of the contract as their T&Cs.

They can't fulfil that - they are in breach.

How much money are we talking about?
I hope you are right, in their Terms it does say that if a course is cancelled they will re-arrange a course at a time that is convenient to me so theoretically i can turn down any further courses as not being convenient..

I paid £1,350..



3Dee

2,546 posts

90 months

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Send a letter to them outlining the facts (dates and times - Booking, calls and chase-ups) and in particular the problems you went through and state something like since they have not reasonably fulfilled their obligation to provide you with a course on two occasions, then you expect them to return your money within 7 days from receiving the letter (recorded delivery), otherwise you will have no hesitation but to commence proceedings against them to recover the original fee together with all your costs incurred, as well as seeking compensation for the inconvenience and etc. etc.

In my experience that often works.

JustinP1

10,276 posts

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Shuvi McTupya said:
JustinP1 said:
Your contract with them was for the date you specified. That is just as much part of the contract as their T&Cs.

They can't fulfil that - they are in breach.

How much money are we talking about?
I hope you are right, in their Terms it does say that if a course is cancelled they will re-arrange a course at a time that is convenient to me so theoretically i can turn down any further courses as not being convenient..

I paid £1,350..
Ahh - that's worth the hassle chasing.

3dee above has given some very good advice there. Outline what you have been told, the delays, and outline the specific point that you booked to go on the course rapidly as promised, and from this point it is no longer 'convenient' for you to wait any longer.

You *may* find that their business model is to wait until they have a few people together and *then* make the arrangements to fulfil the course... smile

Shuvi McTupya

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Cheers guys,

I have also been onto my bank and they say their fraud department might be able to sort it out for me if they are happy that these guys have not fulfilled their obligations.

Later today i am supposed to be hearing about their latest offering and i will make my decision after that.

I would rather get the training i paid for, than get involved in trying to deal with fraud departments and refunds etc.

One of the things that concerns me is that I can't find anybody that provides the training they have promised, in my area..so maybe they can't either, but thought they could.

The last place they offered was 40 miles away and i agreed to it but i won't be prepared to go much further than that.

Fingers crossed.

swerni

19,908 posts

79 months

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JustinP1 said:
You *may* find that their business model is to wait until they have a few people together and *then* make the arrangements to fulfil the course... smile
My money is on this.
The sell the course, if they get the required numbers the run it, if not they roll it into the next one or the one after until it becomes profitable for them.

Cooperman

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Read up on the 'Unfair Contract Terms Act' which may cover this case.
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