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DiseasalDriver
Original Poster
781 posts
16 months
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What's the legalities or owning?
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thetapeworm
4,716 posts
108 months
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I'm not 100% on this but I think the type of replica might have an impact on the legality - some vent in a certain way (front vs top?) and can be made to fire real ammunition, others can't (easily).
I had a blank firing M92 many years ago but handed it in to the police when they had an amnesty when I moved from isolation in the country to the city. I didn't want to be tempted into waving it around in a silly moment and getting shot by an armed response unit.
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MillenniumFalcon
315 posts
52 months
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Apologies as this is after a few, and im a little 'tired and emotional'. General state of affairs is that if you already own such a replica (assuming, as a previous poster has pointed out, that it's a legal blank firer, for example, a top venting, solid barrel model) then its 100% legal to own. If you don't already own it, it becomes a little more complicated. Under the current act, its an offence to sell, import or manufacture a replica imitation firearm, such as a replica Beretta 92 series pistol in anything other than a Home Office approved colour over 50% (possibly 51%) of the replica. So, for example, a 100% black/silver coloured replica would be considered a replica imitation firearm, and subject to the above act, but a replica with the slide and barrel coloured bright blue would be considered an imitation firearm, and not subject to the act (although without looking I cannot recall if there are age limitations). There are 'specific defences' to the offence's above, such as theatrical productions etc. Take a look here, under part 2 for further information: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/conten...
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liner33
3,668 posts
71 months
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thetapeworm said: I didn't want to be tempted into waving it around in a silly moment and getting shot by an armed response unit. Seriously??? Wouldnt the same apply to large kitchen knives or table legs in Tesco bags ?? I'm surprised you trust yourself to leave the house
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jazzyjeff
3,504 posts
128 months
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Surely the fact that it's called a "Baretta" will make it obvious to anyone that it's not a real gun? 
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Snowboy
3,255 posts
20 months
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MillenniumFalcon said: Home Office approved colour over 50% (possibly 51%) of the replica. I’m pretty sure that the recent revision of the law states the entire gun must be brightly coloured, not just part of it. With regards to the blank firer. It’s fine to own. The law has lots of exceptions to previously owned stuff. It’s illegal for you to sell it, unless you sell it to someone with a licence and/or valid reason to own it. e.g. A theatre props department has a valid reason and may not need a gun licence. If you take it out the house, make sure it’s in a bag. Don’t wave it round in public, If you do happen to get stopped by the police make sure you tell them you have it in the bag at the earliest opportunity, The modern firearms laws are quite strict, but there’s an underlying common sense to them.
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thetapeworm
4,716 posts
108 months
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liner33 said: thetapeworm said: I didn't want to be tempted into waving it around in a silly moment and getting shot by an armed response unit. Seriously??? No, sorry 
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Breadvan72
10,229 posts
32 months
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Why would anyone wish to own a handgun that can fire any kind of round?
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doogz
18,721 posts
56 months
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Breadvan72 said: Why would anyone wish to own a handgun that can fire any kind of round? I wouldn't mind a .22 for executing rats. When they're a couple of feet away from your feet, my air rifle is a bit impractical, and the cat is getting lazy. Or he prefers the taste of rabbit, either way, he's not getting rid of them quickly enough.
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IanMorewood
2,356 posts
117 months
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Breadvan72 said: Why would anyone wish to own a handgun that can fire any kind of round? I take it that you never tried to load half a dozen caps into a cap gun (for a single shot) as a child then? Short of using it a film/stills prop I cant see the point in replicas at all but a fair few people buy them so who am I to stop them as long as they abide by the common sense rules of not waving them about in public or using them to intimidate people.
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Breadvan72
10,229 posts
32 months
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I loved running about shouting bang bang you're dead when I was a child, but I have my doubts about those who like doing that in adulthood (when not in the army, that is).
The rat shooting option makes sense, as long as you are a good snap shot with a pistol, which is hard to do well. Maybe get an air-carbine, if anyone makes such a thing!
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DiseasalDriver
Original Poster
781 posts
16 months
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jazzyjeff said: Surely the fact that it's called a "Baretta" will make it obvious to anyone that it's not a real gun? Typo. Beretta!
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pits
4,383 posts
59 months
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Breadvan72 said: I loved running about shouting bang bang you're dead when I was a child, but I have my doubts about those who like doing that in adulthood (when not in the army, that is).
The rat shooting option makes sense, as long as you are a good snap shot with a pistol, which is hard to do well. Maybe get an air-carbine, if anyone makes such a thing!
For people that are into airsoft? I bought all my RIFs prior to the new law (which imho is a load of bulls  t, as it was brought about by that guy who shot that kid with an air rifle in Scotland, it wasn't an imitation firearm, it was a firearm) I digress. Not 100% sure if blank fire come under UKARA, but we do use blank fire grenades whilst playing (they just make a loud noise) There are 3 people I would go to on this subject who between them know just about everything there is to know about RIFS and the legality of RIFS and that is to go here http://www.ukapu.org.uk/wordpress/?page_id=63And speak to either Matt Furey King, or James Williams, if anyone knows the legality of what you want to do it would be these two they know everything, I believe Matt has just become head of European Airsoft Association. HTH
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Snowboy
3,255 posts
20 months
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I’m pretty sure (but happy to be corrected) that airsoft can be considered a legal reason to have replicas.
But, you need to be a member of an airsoft club that has insurance and membership cards and suchlike.
Re-enactment groups have the same sort of rules.
Anyone with a valid reason to get one can get one. But kids who just want to play silly buggers without considering the potential problems don’t get to buy them.
But, a registered aisofter with a valid reason for a modern airsoft replica of an AK47 may not be able to use their airsoft exclusion to get a blank firing Beretta or a replica non-firing Revolver… because they have no legal use for it.
All that said.
Anyone over the age of 18 can buy and own an air rifle or an air pistol so long as they are not replicas of real guns. (or something like that) even though they are black and look very gunlike.
It’s very convoluted.
But, what it comes down to is;
You can’t sell someone a real looking gun unless they have a sensible reason for wanting it, and can show that they aren’t likely to do anything stupid with it.
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Breadvan72
10,229 posts
32 months
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Keep it sensible, and there'll be no problem... 
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Snowboy
3,255 posts
20 months
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That’s perfectly legal as the BFG900 does not look like a real gun.
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julian64
9,840 posts
123 months
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Breadvan72 said: Keep it sensible, and there'll be no problem... If only that were the case. Unfortunately as I get older, I tend to think the current generation of law makers and law enforcers have lost touch with the whole concept of 'sensible' The lawmakers tend to pander to an ever decreasing population IQ. The Law enforcers are no longer capable of interpreting between the sense and the definition of a law.
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Breadvan72
10,229 posts
32 months
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I always preferred the rocket launcher, as the BFG 9000 took too long to power up between shots.
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Breadvan72
10,229 posts
32 months
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