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eggchaser1987

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527 posts

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Just wondering really. I can end up staying in hotels/pubs etc for work due to being sent where ever to work. Just wanted to know how much the average is for a week or night away due to work.

I know not very English to descus money or wage but want to know if I'm getting a good deal or not.

crofty1984

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Reasonably nice hotel paid for (not the Ritz but it shouldn't be some hovel either).
Either all food/drinks/taxis reimbursed with receipts or £20-£40 pocket money a day in my experience.

BrabusMog

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Accommodation, breakfast, dinner and flight/train/petrol expenses for me. I have to pay for it myself and submit receipts for reimbursement.

crofty1984

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Oh, that's while you're there already. The transport to/from should be paid for or a "per-mile" payment you get if you use your own car. IIRC, if it's less than 40p a mile you can get the difference off the gubbermint.

BrabusMog

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I get more than 40p per mile, can be quite a nice little earner.
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texasjohn

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I claim back receipted expenses like BrabusMog and can claim anything within reason. I can't recall ever getting anything questioned in my current job and will have anything from a £5 McDonalds to a £60 meal if I'm travelling alone.

I remember having to abide by a strange rule many years back - our MD frowned on anyone claiming pints but if you had a bottle of wine with a meal that was ok. Strange, a couple of beers each costs a lot less than a bottle of wine for me and a bottle for my boss!

When working in the US we had the per diem system (allowance per day on top of any hotel bills) which just encouraged you to do things as cheaply as possible and bank the cash. When you were travelling back in the UK you'd be allowed claim something in line with DoD allowable rates like US $130 a day staying in Manchester and closer to US $200 a day somewhere like London back in 2004. I'm all for being a bit sensible with the budget, but when you see some tightwad colleagues pocketing fruit at breakfast in London hotels so they can save £3 or so on a lunchtime sandwich you really wonder...




talkssense

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Are you talking about getting paid for being away from home, over and above expenses?

If so I have never heard of that for short term business trips. Travel (cost of, not getting paid for the time taken) hotel, and price of a reasonable meal (around £20?). Would be the norm I would think.

I have worked with people who wanted paying for being away before. They didn't get it, and when redundancies came around, they disappeared.

BrabusMog

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talkssense said:
Are you talking about getting paid for being away from home, over and above expenses?

If so I have never heard of that for short term business trips. Travel (cost of, not getting paid for the time taken) hotel, and price of a reasonable meal (around £20?). Would be the norm I would think.

I have worked with people who wanted paying for being away before. They didn't get it, and when redundancies came around, they disappeared.
I'm not surprised, that's why you're paid a salary.

talkssense

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BrabusMog said:
I'm not surprised, that's why you're paid a salary.
Agreed.

I got the impression tha was what the OP was getting at though.

okie592

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40p a mile, plus a holiday inn, £30 food allowance a day plus costs for parking taxis etc, plus a hire car once your 21

toddler

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eggchaser1987 said:
Just wondering really. I can end up staying in hotels/pubs etc for work due to being sent where ever to work. Just wanted to know how much the average is for a week or night away due to work.

I know not very English to descus money or wage but want to know if I'm getting a good deal or not.
I did a lot of travel in my previous job, often away from home for days or weeks at a time. A typical week would be something like: Monday/Tuesday in Aberdeen, Wednesday/Thursday in Leeds, and Friday in Edinburgh. I live in Glasgow. All travel was done using bus/train/plane (no car allowance and taxis frowned on) and on my own time i.e. after 5pm and before 8.30am. Breakfast was normally included with the accomodation, and you were encouraged to spend as little as possible on dinner. You most definitely could not claim for alcohol.

To answer your question, the average for a week or night away due to work was exactly zero pounds. So if you get more than that you're doing well smile

Edited by toddler on Monday 21st May 22:32

Lotus Notes

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Everything paid for, but don't go mad... I tend to treat company money like my own.

As for a pdiem, as a young 'un it depended on the country visited and I had a choice of either paying or not paying for the hotel. For long stays away from home I got a 10% uplift and overtime - Those were the days smile


eggchaser1987

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527 posts

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No, no payments over and above. Just cost for hotels etc. I have to stay away week nights then home weekends. But to cover the cost of a weeks hotel and food my money has just gone down to small amount that I don't feel enough to cover hotel alone let alone food and a pint.

In other words I dont feel I should have to pay for the 'privilege' of staying away to work for some one else.

Sorry this may turn into a little rant of my own!

wiggy001

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IIRC it is something like:

Travel Costs (45p per mile, standard class unless working on train, when first class is allowed, parking etc)

Breakfast: £10 per day
Evening Meal: £30 per day

Hotel: Malmaison or similar (around £100-£150 b&b is fine)

For longer term client engagements, a daily allowance ramps up over the first 3 months to £50 per night for being away from home.

pikeyboy

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I travel a lot with work, all over the world in fact. I'm lucky now I have a company credit card so as I dont rack up huge hotel bills and then have to claim them back on my expenses. We are quite lucky as I'm allowed pretty much what I want so long as I dont take the raz and dont run up a massive bar bill. Strictly speaking a main meal shouldnt be more than 30 quid though inc a couple of beers. Sometimes its different if the customer is footing the bill direct for us, then I try to curb any excess like eating huge fillet steaks.

As an aside I always pack swim shorts now as a lot of hotels have pools and its nice to relax after having a load of angry koreans shouting at you all day, and all there is to eat is fish head soup.

Munter

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eggchaser1987 said:
No, no payments over and above. Just cost for hotels etc. I have to stay away week nights then home weekends. But to cover the cost of a weeks hotel and food my money has just gone down to small amount that I don't feel enough to cover hotel alone let alone food and a pint.

In other words I dont feel I should have to pay for the 'privilege' of staying away to work for some one else.

Sorry this may turn into a little rant of my own!
Sounds a bit rough if they are not paying for your accommodation/food!

When I was working away all week I just submitted receipts. So long as they were acceptable (Stay in Premier Inn, pub meal + 1 drink), they covered it no question. If I'd decided I wanted a £200 a night room I'd have been told to do one. But the principle was I should not be paying for food or accommodation while away on company business.

BrabusMog

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Munter said:
eggchaser1987 said:
No, no payments over and above. Just cost for hotels etc. I have to stay away week nights then home weekends. But to cover the cost of a weeks hotel and food my money has just gone down to small amount that I don't feel enough to cover hotel alone let alone food and a pint.

In other words I dont feel I should have to pay for the 'privilege' of staying away to work for some one else.

Sorry this may turn into a little rant of my own!
Sounds a bit rough if they are not paying for your accommodation/food!

When I was working away all week I just submitted receipts. So long as they were acceptable (Stay in Premier Inn, pub meal + 1 drink), they covered it no question. If I'd decided I wanted a £200 a night room I'd have been told to do one. But the principle was I should not be paying for food or accommodation while away on company business.
That's fair and, from what the OP has said, I'd be expecting the company to provide him with a float of cash to pay for this so he doesn't have to wait for finance dept to get their arse in gear and pay him back, my expenses take far longer than my credit card bill coming back to be paid.

eggchaser1987

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Well sounds like I'm not getting a very good deal at the moment frown

They are now saying that they will give £109 per week for lodge and food. And still staying away for two months so far and haven't seen any money come my way to help me pay for it.

Not that happy about it. Think another phone call is in order

pikeyboy

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BrabusMog said:
That's fair and, from what the OP has said, I'd be expecting the company to provide him with a float of cash to pay for this so he doesn't have to wait for finance dept to get their arse in gear and pay him back, my expenses take far longer than my credit card bill coming back to be paid.
OP and yourself should ask for a cash advance for which you can then provide receipts or a company credit card, again easy to receipt this.

Pulse

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crofty1984 said:
IIRC, if it's less than 40p a mile you can get the difference off the gubbermint.
Really? Where does it say that?

I get 58p per mile for the first 3,500 miles, but I'm due to hit at least 10,000 miles this year, and the rest of my miles are at 22p per mile.
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