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dern
Original Poster
12,790 posts
148 months
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Morning. I'm looking for a 3 series touring for everyday and family use and a 335i M sport touring caught my eye. Does anyone know of any buyers guides for these cars kicking about? Anything I should look for when viewing one and can anyone that has one give me an idea of the real world MPG they get. The one I'm looking at is a2007 auto with 45,000 miles and fsh by the way. I was looking for a 330i but this car caught my eye as it's obviously faster  Thanks, Mark
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tcarson
20 posts
49 months
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Tea Pot One
1,342 posts
97 months
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FWIW I know someone who has a 57 plate 335i auto ... he lives in mid Surrey and gets about 22mpg .... his description was that 'it seriously drinks and the petrol bills hurt ... but I absolutely love it'.
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Fox-
9,960 posts
115 months
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I personally think the fuel consumption of the 335i is one of its strong points. In the time I had mine I found it was almost exactly as economical as my 530i is - so 20ish around town, 35+ on a steady Motorway run and 26-30 as an average.
Hard to get annoyed with that given the power on offer.
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spacegrey335
210 posts
48 months
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Do a search on the N54 engine OP. At least you can't say you haven't been warned! ;-)
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miln0039
1,561 posts
27 months
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spacegrey335 said: Do a search on the N54 engine OP. At least you can't say you haven't been warned! ;-) But do remember to check the number of complaints versus the number registered...happy people don't post about things on the internet 
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ArsE92
16,983 posts
56 months
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My E92 335i auto is currently showing an average of 28mpg which I'm absolutely delighted with. That's a mixture of motorway (and I don't sit at 56mph) and a/b roads. For comparison, the car I had before this (Mazda 6 MPS) had less power (but admittedly AWD) and averaged 25mpg.
People will say the run-flats are evil and they should be ripped off on your way home from the dealership. I don't have a problem with them, and I'm not about to spend £1000 on non-runflats and a 'mobility kit'. Conversely, the ride over the cobbled streets of Edinburgh with the run-flats on my wife's Cooper is horrendous!
Try and find a BMW AUC if you're worried about reliability. I bought mine last November and haggled an extra years AUC warranty, so I'm covered for two years. The N54 is also more tuneable than the N55 if that's your bag - 400bhp for £800 I believe.
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BJT
1,415 posts
116 months
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dern said: Morning. I'm looking for a 3 series touring for everyday and family use and a 335i M sport touring caught my eye. Does anyone know of any buyers guides for these cars kicking about? Anything I should look for when viewing one and can anyone that has one give me an idea of the real world MPG they get. The one I'm looking at is a2007 auto with 45,000 miles and fsh by the way. I was looking for a 330i but this car caught my eye as it's obviously faster  Thanks, Mark I'm just about to start researching 335i M Sport Touring's to replace my E46 330i. I have seen a few advertising new turbos but have not yet read in to the issues.
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Fox-
9,960 posts
115 months
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spacegrey335 said: Do a search on the N54 engine OP. At least you can't say you haven't been warned! ;-) It isn't particularly reliable I agree but the BMW warranty on a sub 60k mile car is about 40 quid a month, therefore the reliability isn't a concern.
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gangzoom
148 posts
84 months
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ArsE92 said: Try and find a BMW AUC if you're worried about reliability. I bought mine last November and haggled an extra years AUC warranty, so I'm covered for two years. The N54 is also more tuneable than the N55 if that's your bag - 400bhp for £800 I believe. Your need downpipes/intercooler to hit 400bhp, that's £1k in parts alone, and another £400-500ish for fitting. Still compared to other cars it's still cheap. As people have said get one with an AUC warranty if ur worried, but than you wouldn't be able to mod it. I've had mine 12months, it's probably running 360 bhp ish, no problems at all. Still I did buy from BMW for the AUC just in case, but wouldn't be carrying on with it. For how much they are going for now 335is are a complete bargain. Buy one for £12k, spend £3k on mods (LSD+remap) and ur have a very sorted car.
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dern
Original Poster
12,790 posts
148 months
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Thanks very much for all the advice.
I take the point about the warranty. However, I tend to service and work on cars myself and am prepared to take the risk of not having a warranty and then if such items as the turbos do go I'm comfortable sourcing them and dropping the engine and replacing them myself. What I'm trying to avoid is buying a car model that requires work frequently. I'm trying to get away from that which is why I want to buy a much newer car than I've recently had. My last volvo seemed to require fettling far too frequently but then it was pretty old.
On that note... Do I need special equipment to turn off service lights on this generation of BMWs once I've done the work myself? Is the interface a straight forward OBD2 interface for example?
I know that servicing cars myself will have a detrimental effect on value (potentially) but this is part of car ownership for me, I'm comfortable doing what ever needs doing and is the way I like to run cars.
Thanks,
Mark
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Fox-
9,960 posts
115 months
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But the warranty it so cheap I simply do not understand why you would want the bother of doing work yourself on a car with a 5 figure value.
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E30M3SE
6,681 posts
65 months
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dern said: On that note... Do I need special equipment to turn off service lights on this generation of BMWs once I've done the work myself? Is the interface a straight forward OBD2 interface for example? It can all be reset without any additional equipment , do a serch on 'CBS reset'. They have a standard OBDII interface.
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dern
Original Poster
12,790 posts
148 months
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Fox- said: But the warranty it so cheap I simply do not understand why you would want the bother of doing work yourself on a car with a 5 figure value. Because presumably the warranty will require me to service it either within the bmw network or by an independent and won't be valid if I service the car myself.
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E30M3SE
6,681 posts
65 months
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dern said: Because presumably the warranty will require me to service it either within the bmw network or by an independent and won't be valid if I service the car myself. Correct.
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dern
Original Poster
12,790 posts
148 months
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E30M3SE said: It can all be reset without any additional equipment , do a serch on 'CBS reset'.
They have a standard OBDII interface. Nice one, thanks.
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Fox-
9,960 posts
115 months
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dern said: Because presumably the warranty will require me to service it either within the bmw network or by an independent and won't be valid if I service the car myself. Good luck selling a 335i with no service history because you did it all yourself. Surely these cars are still worth far too much for it to ever be worth home servicing? Fair enough if its a £3000 325i...
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steve singh
2,390 posts
42 months
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Fox- said: dern said: Because presumably the warranty will require me to service it either within the bmw network or by an independent and won't be valid if I service the car myself. Good luck selling a 335i with no service history because you did it all yourself. Surely these cars are still worth far too much for it to ever be worth home servicing? Fair enough if its a £3000 325i... When I read it I guessed it was going to be a keeper for the OP? If not and the plan is to move it along in a couple of years, then I suspect any saving you get from servicing it yourself will be eaten up when it comes to resale value...
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miln0039
1,561 posts
27 months
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steve singh said: Fox- said: dern said: Because presumably the warranty will require me to service it either within the bmw network or by an independent and won't be valid if I service the car myself. Good luck selling a 335i with no service history because you did it all yourself. Surely these cars are still worth far too much for it to ever be worth home servicing? Fair enough if its a £3000 325i... When I read it I guessed it was going to be a keeper for the OP? If not and the plan is to move it along in a couple of years, then I suspect any saving you get from servicing it yourself will be eaten up when it comes to resale value... I read the same way regarding the OP keeping the car a while. If this is the case, any subsequent sale is likely to be on the private market - so the penalty of self servicing would be less? The OP is clearly already more knowledgeable than any of us about working on his own car and then selling them on...hence, I think he knows what he's getting himself into...so none of us are really in a place to tell him what to do or where he's going wrong. You pays your money, you takes your choices. I personally hate warranties - although the PH community seems to bum them. They wouldn't exist if they weren't just another way of making cash. Put the same money away each month into a fighting fund if you must, at least then you can have some of it back if all is well! Go for it Mark and enjoy! 
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dern
Original Poster
12,790 posts
148 months
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Yes it will be a keeper. The self-service plan is not only to save money (although it does) but it ensures that I know what's been done and that it's been done properly. This might sound trite but I relied on garages/main-dealers to do work for several years and on and off when I've been too busy and the majority of the time I've not been happy with their work. They've told me there wasn't an issue when there was, they've replaced bits necessarily in a attempt to fix stuff that hasn't been fixed... it's the same old story that I'm sure you've heard a million times. So, over the last 15 years I've set myself up with a good range of tools and skills to do most jobs. I won't rebuild engines or gearboxes but I can take them out, give them to the appropriate specialist and refit them when fixed. Everything else I can do. I also like doing it... just not every weekend as I'd rather take my track car to bits (or even drive it) or play with my bike  All the best, Mark
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