Cooper D - which engine?

Cooper D - which engine?

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IceBoy

Original Poster:

2,443 posts

220 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Hi All,

Just a quick one.

What engine does the mini cooper D have? Specifically the clubman from 2007 onwards.

I have herd a few horror stories with PSA engine, is the Toyota one better????

Thanks
IceBoy

Loui

350 posts

206 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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2007 to September 2010 is a psa diesel. They tend to be pretty reliable tbh

IceBoy

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2,443 posts

220 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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So Toyota after sept 2010 ?
IceBoy

Dr Interceptor

7,743 posts

195 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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IceBoy said:
So Toyota after sept 2010 ?
IceBoy
They didn't have a Toyota engine.

The OLD 1st Gen R50 MINI One Diesel produced from 2003 to 2006 had a Toyota sourced 1.4 diesel engine, the same as found in the Yaris (D4-D).

The new R56 MINI (Autumn 2006 onwards) had a PSA sourced diesel fitted in the CooperD up until late 2010/early 2011 (no-one knows the exact switch date) when it then switched over to BMWs own 1.6 diesel which is produced in house at Hams Hall in Birmingham - alongside the petrol prince engine.


MINI One Diesel (1st Gen R50)



The above is distinguishable as even after the facelift (note the facelifted Xenons on the car above) the OneD soldiered on with pre-facelifted bumpers up until its demise in 2006.

Here is the PSA diesel engine from the 2nd Gen R56 CooperD:



The later BMW engine had a much larger engine cover, more like the one used on the 2.0 litre models.




Loui

350 posts

206 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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Dr Interceptor said:
They didn't have a Toyota engine.

The OLD 1st Gen R50 MINI One Diesel produced from 2003 to 2006 had a Toyota sourced 1.4 diesel engine, the same as found in the Yaris (D4-D).

The new R56 MINI (Autumn 2006 onwards) had a PSA sourced diesel fitted in the CooperD up until late 2010/early 2011 (no-one knows the exact switch date) when it then switched over to BMWs own 1.6 diesel which is produced in house at Hams Hall in Birmingham - alongside the petrol prince engine.


MINI One Diesel (1st Gen R50)



The above is distinguishable as even after the facelift (note the facelifted Xenons on the car above) the OneD soldiered on with pre-facelifted bumpers up until its demise in 2006.

Here is the PSA diesel engine from the 2nd Gen R56 CooperD:



The later BMW engine had a much larger engine cover, more like the one used on the 2.0 litre models.
The switch date was September 2010 when the cars were facelifted. The latest engine is a BMW unit. The easy way to from under the bonnet is the PDA diesel had the turbo at the front. The BMW engine, the turbo is at the rear of the bay

Rubinski

24 posts

158 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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I've heard mixed reviews about the post 2010 engine, on paper it has more power and better fuel efficiency.

Any thoughts on whether the pre 2010 is a better buy than the post 2010?

helix402

7,832 posts

181 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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The French 1.6 engine is not that reliable. It is used is numerous different cars and suffers from premature turbo failure and sludging of oil ways.

helix402

7,832 posts

181 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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The French 1.6 engine is not that reliable. It is used is numerous different cars and suffers from premature turbo failure and sludging of oil ways.

Pints

18,444 posts

193 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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How embarrassing. I thought my 62-plate Cooper D was a PSA engine. Based on this thread, it's apparently a BMW motor.

Dr Interceptor

7,743 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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Pints said:
How embarrassing. I thought my 62-plate Cooper D was a PSA engine. Based on this thread, it's apparently a BMW motor.
Err yes, it will have the BMW engine.

Another MINI Diesel oddity...

MINI Cooper SD Manual - 2 litre
MINI Cooper SD Auto - 2 litre

MINI Cooper D Manual - 1.6 litre
MINI Cooper D Auto - 2 litre

The Cooper D automatic runs a detuned version of the Cooper SD's 2-litre engine.

uk66fastback

16,457 posts

270 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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So the auto Cooper D has a 2-litre engine and the manual a 1.6?

Dr Interceptor

7,743 posts

195 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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uk66fastback said:
So the auto Cooper D has a 2-litre engine and the manual a 1.6?
Yup...

uk66fastback

16,457 posts

270 months

Sunday 23rd February 2014
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Source? I can't find anyhhing on the net which supports your statement ...

Dr Interceptor

7,743 posts

195 months

Sunday 23rd February 2014
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uk66fastback said:
Source? I can't find anyhhing on the net which supports your statement ...
I just know... but if you would like proof...



uk66fastback

16,457 posts

270 months

Sunday 23rd February 2014
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That 2-litre refers to only the Paceman and Countryman models - ALL others are 1.6

Edit: that was what I've just been told on a MiniChat online (on their site)

but ...

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

So very confused now! smile

Edited by uk66fastback on Sunday 23 February 17:29

Dr Interceptor

7,743 posts

195 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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uk66fastback said:
That 2-litre refers to only the Paceman and Countryman models - ALL others are 1.6

Edit: that was what I've just been told on a MiniChat online (on their site)

but ...

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

So very confused now! smile

Edited by uk66fastback on Sunday 23 February 17:29
Nope... applies to all models. Hatch, cabrio, coupe, roadster, countryman and paceman.

If you spec the auto box on a Cooper D, you get the 2-litre engine, just detuned.

tintopracer

139 posts

166 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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I've got a 2007 model. It's done 84,000 miles and I've had no issues with the engine (or anything else for that matter). Most of the driving I do in it is longish distances, at least 40 mile journeys each way commuting and many over 300 miles in a day. I've always thought that this helps with keeping it "healthy" but maybe that's just me. Oh yeah and its averaged 65mpg overall.

I have considered an SD but didn't feel it was significantly better to warrant the cost of changing. Maybe when the R56 one comes out though I could be tempted.

Bohally

943 posts

146 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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Picked up a 60 plate Cooper D on Monday past, can anyone tell me which engine I'm likely to have in it? Free to tax if that helps.

Cheers.

Dr Interceptor

7,743 posts

195 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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Bohally said:
Picked up a 60 plate Cooper D on Monday past, can anyone tell me which engine I'm likely to have in it? Free to tax if that helps.

Cheers.
BMW engine smile

Bohally

943 posts

146 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Sorry for late reply - Is the BMW engine good news or bad news?!