God I love the wail.

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vdp1

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517 posts

172 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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carreauchompeur

17,855 posts

205 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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rofl Never fails to please.

richinleeds

738 posts

201 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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hmmmm 100 "armed" officer's............i doubt it DM.rolleyes

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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I am particularly amused by the fact that the Daily Heil was so lazy that the image they've used for Cillit Bang is actually for a viral ad remix. I guess jakazid will be pleased.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dT2iE1OBGk

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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I love their "estimations" as well. An operation in Gloucester with 50 officers cost £15,000, we reckon there's about a hundred here there for we estimate £30,000.

Daily Wail said:
But estimates based on officers’ overtime and the cost of an armed response team have priced the siege at around £30,000.
A similar siege involving 50 officers surrounding a house for 20 hours in Gloucester cost taxpayers £15,000


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2158817/10...
Mind you, it does sound like a right cock up. What the hell was it all about anyway?

Derek Smith

45,770 posts

249 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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According to the Mail's report - which will be partial and much relevant material left out, expeically the stuff which supports the police action - police turned up at the scene, were threatened by a man with a gun. They then retired and the chap returned to the building. There was a seige and the chap gave himself up. A search of the premises revealed a gun but not, according to the report, the one he was holding when he threatened the officers.

This last is interesting. There's a gun on the premises but for reasons unexplained, at least in the article, it was accepted that he was not holding this one when the officers were threatened. I'd like to know more about that.

TRhe police would appear to have followed the system imposed by the Home Office and others with regards to armed seiges. Whether 100 armed police were at the scene or not is open to doubt I would suggest.

The police have no flexibility in the matter. The so-called guidelines, in effect instructions, from the HO are very specific. Many people feel they are all but impossible to comply with so that if it all goes wrong the government can say that it was the specific force's fault. You would not believe the documentation that is required, most of which is there as self protection.

Or to put it another way, a typical Mail story which is in essence just that, a story.

993AL

1,939 posts

219 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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richinleeds said:
hmmmm 100 "armed" officer's............i doubt it DM.rolleyes
Agreed, not for a bleach of the peace

turbobloke

104,098 posts

261 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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993AL said:
richinleeds said:
hmmmm 100 "armed" officer's............i doubt it DM.rolleyes
Agreed, not for a bleach of the peace
That's a colourless remark but it could be white.

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Love the comment 'stand back or the oven gets it'.

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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turbobloke said:
993AL said:
richinleeds said:
hmmmm 100 "armed" officer's............i doubt it DM.rolleyes
Agreed, not for a bleach of the peace
That's a colourless remark but it could be white.
What bleach of the peace? He got of (Barry) Scott free in the end anyway.

Mark Benson

7,528 posts

270 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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AJS- said:
turbobloke said:
993AL said:
richinleeds said:
hmmmm 100 "armed" officer's............i doubt it DM.rolleyes
Agreed, not for a bleach of the peace
That's a colourless remark but it could be white.
What bleach of the peace? He got of (Barry) Scott free in the end anyway.
Only because he came clean.

dandarez

13,297 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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For the Wail haters, why don't you look in other newspapers as well, or do you just read the Wail but can't confess to doing it? rolleyes

If you actually read other papers as well, like I do, you'd find that every report about this story - even the Telegraph - stated '100' police officers.


AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Mark Benson said:
AJS- said:
turbobloke said:
993AL said:
richinleeds said:
hmmmm 100 "armed" officer's............i doubt it DM.rolleyes
Agreed, not for a bleach of the peace
That's a colourless remark but it could be white.
What bleach of the peace? He got of (Barry) Scott free in the end anyway.
Only because he came clean.
He'd have been off to The Scrubs for a long time otherwise.

P-Jay

10,588 posts

192 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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If you Google the guys name you can find a few more reputable sources.

The guy's defence is that he was in fact holding a bottle of cleaner when the Police called and certainly not the imitation firearm that just-so-happened to be in his house at the time.

You can ether believe that a Copper upon seeing a bright orange bottle of cleaner mistook it for a firearm and along with some colleges laid siege to the guys house until a totally innocent man decided he'd had enough oven cleaning 19 hours later and gave himself up.

Or... some nutter was holding an imitation firearm when a Police Officer called, the officer who has to assume it's real, followed procedure, called for assistance and the nutter was talked out 19 hours later.

But the far more likely story doesn't please the piss boilers at The Fail.

Derek Smith

45,770 posts

249 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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dandarez said:
For the Wail haters, why don't you look in other newspapers as well, or do you just read the Wail but can't confess to doing it? rolleyes

If you actually read other papers as well, like I do, you'd find that every report about this story - even the Telegraph - stated '100' police officers.
'Even the Telegraph'? Odd phrase. It might have been a quality paper some years ago, and it might have had an attempt or two to return to those days, but it is Mail lite as far as news reporting.

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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BANG! And the budget's gone.

carreauchompeur

17,855 posts

205 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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I would be surprised if Gloucester Constabulary even have 100 armed officers, even more so that they were all on duty on the same day, even more so if they were outside this bloke's house!!

vdp1

Original Poster:

517 posts

172 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Tough on grime! Tough on the causes of grime!

Shamelessly stolen from the readers comments.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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carreauchompeur said:
I would be surprised if Gloucester Constabulary even have 100 armed officers, even more so that they were all on duty on the same day, even more so if they were outside this bloke's house!!
If they were then it would be an epic cross-border foray - the incident was in Stoke-on-Trent.

NightRunner

12,230 posts

195 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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P-Jay said:
Or... some nutter was holding an imitation firearm when a Police Officer called, the officer who has to assume it's real, followed procedure, called for assistance and the nutter was talked out 19 hours later.
So why is the case not continuing?