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danny0001uk

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Just been reading through the "Why do people think speeding is ok" got me thinking why do people think drink driving is ok seen as a pint is 2 units people in my local could have probabaly 2 or 3 pints and drive out the pub with no one questioning anything! Everyone knows there doing including the landlord,people serving them and there friends!

Is it the same principal as itll never happen to me? I know hardly anyone thats been pulled over for a roadside check in there driving life and im sure people on here have never been pulled over in 20+ years.

Is drink driving 3 or 4 pints worse than speeding?

Round here people seem to think getting caught speeding is worse than drink driving!!! People are more forgiving if you got caught drink driving than speeding! And seen as nobody is bothered about speed limits it must mean people care bout drink driving very little

chriscpritchard

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I don't know, I think it's become more socially unacceptable recently. It's very easy to tell if someone's been drink driving, I ended up behind a car that I thought was driving erratically, ended up calling the police because they were all over the place and heading towards a built up area. When he got pulled over, turned out he was 4 times the legal limit!

Cyder

4,772 posts

89 months

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Here we go again. rolleyes

scarble

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26 months

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I personally think drink driving is far worse than speeding, I've done one bottle and driving hours later and feel guilty for that, though I was certainly under the limit.
I'm sure those who enjoy driving, rather than seeing it as a means to an end, will agree.
That said I don't think breathalysers in cars is a valid solution (retrofit every car with a system that interferes with the ignition? Stop people from test-firing while tinkering away with a few beers on a Sunday? Get %@~<£d)

danny0001uk

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Ive heard a few people say theve followed drink drivers phoned the police and they didnt turn up or anything!

I was just intrested in why its so much more socailly acceptable to drink drive than speed when argualbly drink driving causes fewer accidents.

Is a drink driver doing 30 in a 30 more safer than a speeder doing 60 in a 30? I really dont know.

The limit used to be 2 units dont know if its the same now which si one pint. However you could go to a pub a nice day sit outside have 2 or 3 pints so obviously over the limit and drive off without no one blinking an eyelid! But if you sat outside the pub and someone blatantly speeds past obviously breaking the speed limit every complains and call him and idiot bla bla bla!

Im not condoning drink driving in anyway I just find it intresting how most people see it as more socailly acceptable than speeding!

Would be intresting to see some figures on accidents caused by drink driving v speeding

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GT03ROB

2,636 posts

90 months

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Hmm 2 posts in 79 months & both on this?

Anyhow, your premise I think is completely wrong. I would say that for the majority drunk drivng is not acceptable under any circumstance, whereas exceeding the speed limit is many situations is.

aw51 121565

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And to think that recent "thinking" from the powers-that-be in the UK was to make speeding as socially unacceptable as drink driving!

If drink driving was socially acceptable, the people in the pub wouldn't be eking out their couple of pints over an evening then driving home wink . But drink driving - driving with BAC over prescribed limit - isn't OK, and many drivers will have just one pint or even stay on soft drinks all night if they have to drive at the end of it smile .

I think the thread title has significantly misread the feelings of people on the forum - and the general public - but let's see where it goes smile .

rohrl

3,747 posts

14 months

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Do they?

I'm 35 so neither a callow youth or an old duffer and among my peer group drink-driving is not thought of as okay. People banned for drink-driving aren't thought of as unfortunate but as stupid and entirely deserving of their ban.

Speeding is a completely different matter, other than where obviously inappropriate, for example right outside a school.

NB - I'm talking about driving while over the blood alcohol limit here.

danny0001uk

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hmm GT03ROB

If someone said ive been caught drink driving 3 pints over the limit or ive been caught speeding 50 in a 30 which would you be more "shocked" by?

Cyder

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danny0001uk said:
The limit used to be 2 units dont know if its the same now which si one pint. However you could go to a pub a nice day sit outside have 2 or 3 pints so obviously over the limit...
Please feel free to show your workings on this point, and/or a source for your information.

danny0001uk

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Ive just always known two units as been the general rule

rohrl

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The limit has never been based on how many drinks you've had. This is obvious. Two pints of beer will affect a 5'2" woman weighing eight stone an awful lot more than it will a 6'8" man weighing eighteen stone.

The limit is based on how much alcohol is in the bloodstream.

13th

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I think drink driving is far worse than speeding.

I think most people do and doesn't the law prove that? drink driving, licence gone and hefty fine, speeding, points and fine depending on limit/speed.



(or at least that's my understanding; am I correcct, is it instant loss of licence?)

scarble

1,798 posts

26 months

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GT03ROB said:
Hmm 2 posts in 79 months & both on this?
Clearly a masonic plant attempting to stir up grass-roots support for their anti-enthusiast agenda

To clarify: The anti-enthusiast agenda is not preventing drink driving, I do not consider this a hobby. The anti-enthusiast agenda is mandating the fitting of breathalysers linked to the ignition system.

Edited by scarble on Wednesday 20th June 13:07

Riley Blue

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I've never met anyone who reckons drink driving is OK. Why do people dream up these unsubstantiated statements?

paul71a

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I'm more shocked at the OP's spelling, grammar and obvious lack of knowledge between "there, they're and their!"


13th

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[quote=scarble]
the fitting of breathalysers linked to the ignition system.

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Is there one that will work for mobile phones? I'd pay good money for that wink


bosshog

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Riley Blue said:
I've never met anyone who reckons drink driving is OK. Why do people dream up these unsubstantiated statements?
You've not lived in France then - its socially accepted pretty much (at least in the south) to go to a restaurant with your wife and drink a bottle between you and possibly an aperitive as well.
Pretty much all most people I know drink and drive (in France) but hardly ever drive drunk (though you do see it a fair bit)

I know plenty of people who have been pulled over after a few drinks either after work, or a meal, and even after a night out clubbing. I would say 80% have been let go with a 'just be careful' after the officer has spoke to them and assessed their condition. If you have an accident under the influence of alcohol from what I know they cut ya balls off and hang you out to dry big time - very heavy fines, etc. They do have quite a few roadside stops in the daytime at weekends, where they breathlize as many people as they can (and fine/ban them) - they are all over daytime drinking.

I'm not saying its right or wrong, just sharing my experience from 15 years living there.

edited to add that for speeding is basically just a fine thing, and again its not particularly frowned on compared to the Uk, through they are very strict now with limits.

Edited by bosshog on Wednesday 20th June 13:27

danny0001uk

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Im not suggesting that people think its ok to drink and drive im saying that its doesnt seem to be frowned upon or even commented on its just seems to be the norm maybe its a up north thing.

Jasandjules

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I don't know anyone who thinks it is ok.
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