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dukeboy749r
42 posts
79 months
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Counter steering - try that in a big open car park and don't get too giddy just doing small circles!
Certainly builds up some knowledge and confidence as to what a bike can do versus what your brian will say it should do...
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MC Bodge
3,775 posts
44 months
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It helps if the suspension is 'balanced' front and rear, otherwise it can feel a bit squirrellyas you get leant over. I'm not a great 'leaner', although I have grounded the pegs occasionally -the first time was on my monkey bike  If you look at John Guinness, he doesn't jump around all over the bike at the TT and he can shift a bit.
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Matbmx1
360 posts
68 months
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MrKipling43
5,284 posts
85 months
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Mike600F said: Freakuk said: TOTW2 far easier to understand than 1 Haven't seen 1 myself, but 2 was brilliant. Loved the no BS bike and that they proved everything. Eye opening. No it doesn't! You REALLY CAN steer a bike with the pegs! 
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Hooli
21,196 posts
69 months
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MC Bodge said: It helps if the suspension is 'balanced' front and rear, otherwise it can feel a bit squirrellyas you get leant over. Very true & a quick n easy way to check is stand up & 'bounce' on the pegs when riding. The bike should stay level as it drops & comes back up.
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SirBlade
496 posts
61 months
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MrKipling43 said: Mike600F said: Freakuk said: TOTW2 far easier to understand than 1 Haven't seen 1 myself, but 2 was brilliant. Loved the no BS bike and that they proved everything. Eye opening. No it doesn't! You REALLY CAN steer a bike with the pegs!  BS It's a myth, you can use the pegs to shift your weight, but pegs alone will not make a bike take a turn. Half a degree at most every 100m.
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Hooli
21,196 posts
69 months
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SirBlade said: MrKipling43 said: Mike600F said: Freakuk said: TOTW2 far easier to understand than 1 Haven't seen 1 myself, but 2 was brilliant. Loved the no BS bike and that they proved everything. Eye opening. No it doesn't! You REALLY CAN steer a bike with the pegs!  BS It's a myth, you can use the pegs to shift your weight, but pegs alone will not make a bike take a turn. Half a degree at most every 100m. Weighting the pegs can make the bike lean & that causes it counter steer due to it 'folding' around the headstock. So it sorta works but in a very much less effective way than just countersteering.
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goldblum
6,740 posts
36 months
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Get a Tuono.Quite alarming how top heavy they feel in slow/medium corners.
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bennyboysvuk
2,001 posts
117 months
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Ahem, it takes balls, but just going into a corner faster requires that you counter-steer much harder to get the bike turned and through a corner. However, the only issue with this is that if you don't counter steer hard enough, you won't make the corner. Tricky decision. This is how I learnt to ride with loads of people who were much faster than me back in the late 90s. I only ever had one or two (hundred) scary moments too. 
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