The inevitable result of an immigration 'amnesty'

The inevitable result of an immigration 'amnesty'

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12gauge

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1,274 posts

175 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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If immigrants don't get in legally, theres usually a good reason for it. Bliar and Brown and their open doors policy have this womans blood on their hands.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2163280/Za...


[b]A violent refugee was jailed for at least 26 years today for stabbing his girlfriend 57 times.
Somalian Zakaria Mohamed, 29, was on probation when he killed television recruitment consultant Amina Adan, 32.

He came to the UK in 2002 on a forged Dutch passport. His request for asylum was turned down but he was given indefinite leave to remain in 2007 under an amnesty.[/b]

Remember, this is what Nick Clegg and Boris Johnson want too.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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Not inevitable. Even under the amnesty he should have been thrown out of the country when he was convicted the first time. That he wasn't is just another sign that our justice system needs an overhaul.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

244 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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How could an amnesty work if you have up to 1 million people who all turn up and claim a right to be here ? What happens when large chunks of that number then has the right to bring in their family and and get full housing and benefit rights ? I can't think of a single public service that isn't full to capacity and has a cash surplus in an already packed country. How very 'right on' some people must think such a policy would be, while totally ignoring the actual effects it would have.

speedy_thrills

7,762 posts

244 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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I thought this crime and immigration thing was put to bed a few years back when some police officer association published research showing that essentially immigrants where no more or less likely to commit a crime than the “indigenous” population?

Of course my opinion will be bias as an emigrant myself biggrin.

voyds9

8,489 posts

284 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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speedy_thrills said:
I thought this crime and immigration thing was put to bed a few years back when some police officer association published research showing that essentially immigrants where no more or less likely to commit a crime than the “indigenous” population?

Of course my opinion will be bias as an emigrant myself biggrin.
It doesn't matter if they commit more or less, it's that they are committing it here.

B Huey

4,881 posts

200 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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12gauge said:
Bliar and Brown and their open doors policy have this womans blood on their hands.
What a ludicrous statement.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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davepoth said:
Not inevitable. Even under the amnesty he should have been thrown out of the country when he was convicted the first time. That he wasn't is just another sign that our justice system needs an overhaul.
Exactly that's what we need to change, commit a crime and the law will properly
punish and keep the person out of a position to do further dammage... if
in the country ileagly then you get booted out if you are a uk national you get locked up...

speedy_thrills

7,762 posts

244 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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voyds9 said:
It doesn't matter if they commit more or less, it's that they are committing it here.
Yes, well we all urge people to commit crimes abroad where possible. It's one industry we wouldn't be sad to see outsourced.

I suppose one might argue that by committing crimes at broadly an equivalent to national rate at least they are doing their bit to "fit in" with the traditional ways of life in Britain.