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donaldosaurus
Original Poster
184 posts
73 months
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Hello,
new to the wonderful world of sevens but enjoying mine very much.
I have a self adhesive plate for the front on reflective background, proper font and spacing but reduced in length as I have a very short reg.
What is the MOT regulations here please as I have seen loads of sevens with such plates?. They certainly look good.
regards
Donaldosaurus
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huwp
514 posts
45 months
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Technically a fail but lots get away with it.
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DCL
329 posts
49 months
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Irrotational
361 posts
58 months
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There are giant threads on this on Blatchat, but I'm on my phone so can't link....
Technically I think the penalty for a wrong plate is worse than no plate....
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Noger
6,789 posts
119 months
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Spare plate in the boot. Oldest trick in the book. "it fell off, officer".
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mickrick
2,540 posts
43 months
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I read somewhere that a normal plate attached in the ususal place, at the bottom lip of the nose cone reduces front end lift.
How true this is I have no idea.
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Irrotational
361 posts
58 months
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There are giant threads on this on Blatchat, but I'm on my phone so can't link....
Technically I think the penalty for a wrong plate is worse than no plate....
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Eugene7
387 posts
64 months
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I've had a sticky front plate for over 23 years.... Never had a problem  As for a normal front plate reducing front end lift, I seriously doubt it - the angle is just wrong for that.
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mickrick
2,540 posts
43 months
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You would think so. But you would think the same about a Gurney flap too.
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DCL
329 posts
49 months
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Eugene7 said: As for a normal front plate reducing front end lift, I seriously doubt it - the angle is just wrong for that. It may not reduce lift but it certainly reduces drag. I found my Vmax with a front plate is better so I've always used one on track. Funnily enough, last week, following a wee accident in the garage, I went out without one and the Vmax was significantly down - maybe by as much as 5 mph. I put it down to it acting like an air-dam/splitter giving a cleaner airflow under the car. Similar to the CSR chin http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_prod...
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Crossflow Kid
4,835 posts
61 months
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Noger said: Spare plate in the boot. Oldest trick in the book. "it fell off, officer". That's fine until the same local copper who stopped you last week sees it again "fallen off" and, being on a Seven, easily remembers the car......as has happened to many, many people.
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Noger
6,789 posts
119 months
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Crossflow Kid said: Noger said: Spare plate in the boot. Oldest trick in the book. "it fell off, officer". That's fine until the same local copper who stopped you last week sees it again "fallen off" and, being on a Seven, easily remembers the car......as has happened to many, many people. Many many ? Really really ? Can't see a "local" plod really bothering. Trouble seems to be ANPR where they can't recognise you. Just don't drive there again 
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one eyed mick
588 posts
31 months
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I think that the legal/non legal plate issue arises when pulled or camera spotted doing things you perhaps shouldn't ,not trying to be holier than any one but I have run an illegal plate for ten years no probs even at 37 in a 30 ,didn't moan paid up and placed it in that file I never open
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Crossflow Kid
4,835 posts
61 months
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Noger said: Crossflow Kid said: Noger said: Spare plate in the boot. Oldest trick in the book. "it fell off, officer". That's fine until the same local copper who stopped you last week sees it again "fallen off" and, being on a Seven, easily remembers the car......as has happened to many, many people. Many many ? Really really ? Can't see a "local" plod really bothering. Trouble seems to be ANPR where they can't recognise you. Just don't drive there again Yes, really really. The assumption is that traffic rozzers only ever see an errant car once and it never crosses their path ever again. This assumption is entirely incorrect, and in the same way that Seven owners have their favourites haunts, so does Dibble. I'd agree on the "Don't go there again" tactic. The folk I do know who've fallen foul of repeat offences are those who go to the same cafe, via the same route, on the same day, at the same time.
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Noger
6,789 posts
119 months
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Oh Ok then I have not had a problem in 20 years of stick on grill/nose numbers. But then the law doesn't apply to me 
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Z3MCJez
87 posts
42 months
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DCL said: It may not reduce lift but it certainly reduces drag. I found my Vmax with a front plate is better so I've always used one on track. Funnily enough, last week, following a wee accident in the garage, I went out without one and the Vmax was significantly down - maybe by as much as 5 mph. I put it down to it acting like an air-dam/splitter giving a cleaner airflow under the car. Similar to the CSR chin http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_prod...DCL - You don't run any data do you? In a race 1moh VMax is significant. 5 would be incredible!
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DCL
329 posts
49 months
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Z3MCJez said: DCL said: It may not reduce lift but it certainly reduces drag. I found my Vmax with a front plate is better so I've always used one on track. Funnily enough, last week, following a wee accident in the garage, I went out without one and the Vmax was significantly down - maybe by as much as 5 mph. I put it down to it acting like an air-dam/splitter giving a cleaner airflow under the car. Similar to the CSR chin http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_prod...DCL - You don't run any data do you? In a race 1moh VMax is significant. 5 would be incredible! Unless you do back-to-back sessions if difficult to be sure of what the exact numbers are, but my best Vmax at my local track (Knockhill) is 119 mph. This was with the plate and last weekend, without it, the Vmax was 114. There are too many other variables, particularly wind, to be sure what the plate gives you but I've done enough to know there is an advantage.
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sfaulds
443 posts
148 months
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No offence, but that's horses  t. As you said, there are far too many variables to make that a valid comment, so why make it? I've spent an awful lot of time trying to find every tenth of a second possible out of 120bhp Caterhams, and I can assure you that a number plate is a *long* way down the list of things that make a difference.
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mickrick
2,540 posts
43 months
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But does it reduce front end lift?
Why the chin spoiler on a CSR?
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Crossflow Kid
4,835 posts
61 months
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sfaulds said: No offence, but that's horses t. As you said, there are far too many variables to make that a valid comment, so why make it? I've spent an awful lot of time trying to find every tenth of a second possible out of 120bhp Caterhams, and I can assure you that a number plate is a *long* way down the list of things that make a difference.  Yup, taking a really big dump beforehand adds more to the "Veeeeeemax".....grrrrrr.......racing driver talk.
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