Running in Ceramic brakes
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Picking up my new Turbo cab next week from OPC Silverstone.
Unfortunately i specced it with the PCCB's before all the bad press etc, and left it too late to change my mind and de-spec them.
The good news is, that i have since bought a GT3 for the trackdays, so the cab brakes should never really be pushed to their limits. However even with this said, i have heard that the running in process itself is very important with PCCB's, as this can determine the feel and longivity of the brakes.
Anyone got experience of this ??
G.
Unfortunately i specced it with the PCCB's before all the bad press etc, and left it too late to change my mind and de-spec them.
The good news is, that i have since bought a GT3 for the trackdays, so the cab brakes should never really be pushed to their limits. However even with this said, i have heard that the running in process itself is very important with PCCB's, as this can determine the feel and longivity of the brakes.
Anyone got experience of this ??
G.
Glenn McMenamin said:
Picking up my new Turbo cab next week from OPC Silverstone.
Unfortunately i specced it with the PCCB's before all the bad press etc, and left it too late to change my mind and de-spec them.
The good news is, that i have since bought a GT3 for the trackdays, so the cab brakes should never really be pushed to their limits. However even with this said, i have heard that the running in process itself is very important with PCCB's, as this can determine the feel and longivity of the brakes.
Anyone got experience of this ??
G.
Sod the question...
You lucky bast*rd!
Tell that to my mate with whom they have refused to replace his PCCB discs at 12,000 miles.................
Guy
zanzibar said:
Porsche GB policy is to change the discs, if they fail free of charge. I would not worry all the problems are from over heating on the track, you will not get them nearly as hot on the road. Bedding in the pads is the same as steel discs.
Z.
Because they were badly damaged and it had occurred in low mileage they deemed them to be 'abused'.
They tried this with me when mine needed replacing at 9,000miles, but after I pointed out I had only owned the car one week and that it couldn't be me, they replaced tham as a 'goodwill gesture'.
Guy
GuyR said:
It was £27,000 for all four.
They have reduced the price significantly and the cheapest option is now a set of 'exhange' discs which are new disc on reconditioned bells, which ar £2,200+vat per disc i.e much less but still £5k per pair
They sound more like a liability than a benefit. How good can they be FFS?
Yep - he swapped to steels and reported no difference in braking at all.
It's not costing Porsche much as few people have PCCB now and fewer still have broken them. This might change with 997s.................
They are also insistent that PCCB discs are not covered by warranty and should 'be checked or replaced' after every trackday...............
PCCB problems happen to anyone who really uses them either on track or road. I know of at least 5 cases personally and have read posts on forums from a lot more people. Porsche's official line is they have only has 2 failures and one of those was because someone cooled them with an extinguisher. It is harder to get them overheated on the road but it is possible, the additional weight of the cab will cause more heat build up. The PCCB fitted to 997 is not the same as 996 they have inproved cooling.
slim_boy_fat said:
Tell that to my mate with whom they have refused to replace his PCCB discs at 12,000 miles.................
Guy
My heart bleeds.............
Mine too.
I'm absolutely disgusted that Porsche could market these brakes stating a service life of 180k miles and do nothing about those that break within 12k miles. It is scandalous before we even move onto the ridiculous cost of the replacements. DAZ
Marki said:
Is this how they marketed them in the start !
Which is why I tried to spec them on my car. Luckily I was not able to, due to slow disc production delaying deliveries of GT2s the PCCB option was taken off the "menu" for turbo buyers. A very lucky escape, considering I crack up the front discs evey 6/7k miles with sensible road and occasional high speed driving (note I think of my driving as sensible). After all the sh1te hit the fan and news spread through internet discussion forums etc and american customers started legal actions in the USA etc Porsche changed all the wording of their PCCB literature.
There are many threads about this over on Rennlist.
DAZ
>> Edited by dazren on Friday 13th August 13:00
The trouble is a lot more cars are going to be coming along with them new M5 i belive has them as standard
At the moment it seems you can switch back to the steel disks and save a packet , what happens when you do not have this luxury available 27,000 pounds for a set of fecking brakes .....
At the moment it seems you can switch back to the steel disks and save a packet , what happens when you do not have this luxury available 27,000 pounds for a set of fecking brakes .....
Seems to be a Porsche problem, as the ones on the 360CS,Enzo and 575 dont seem to get the same press for failures.
And you can bet BMW ones on the M% will work properly.
Its quite funny reading about people complaing about the pice of parts on there £100k cars...
Reality cheack i think..
If you dont like it buy a Focus.....
And you can bet BMW ones on the M% will work properly.
Its quite funny reading about people complaing about the pice of parts on there £100k cars...
Reality cheack i think..
If you dont like it buy a Focus.....
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