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sday12
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80 months
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TwigtheWonderkid said: Tanguero said: Would you would believe anything from a web site that says "passengers on P&O (Peninsula and Orient) "??? If they can't get the name of the company right what other rubbish are they peddling?  What do you think P & O stands for??? Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company I should know, I worked for them for a decade. POSH was used by P&O A swan could break your arm, but only in the way a billiard table couldI was wrong once, 1973.
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Hugo a Gogo
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102 months
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sday12 said: TwigtheWonderkid said: Tanguero said: Would you would believe anything from a web site that says "passengers on P&O (Peninsula and Orient) "??? If they can't get the name of the company right what other rubbish are they peddling? What do you think P & O stands for??? Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company I should know, I worked for them for a decade. POSH was used by P&O A swan could break your arm, but only in the way a billiard table couldI was wrong once, 1973. PeninsulaR and OrientAL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peninsular_and_Orient...
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Bill
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124 months
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sday12 said: A swan could break your arm, but only in the way a billiard table could. If you fell over while running away from it?
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olly22n
11,781 posts
75 months
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Bill said: sday12 said: A swan could break your arm, but only in the way a billiard table could. If you fell over while running away from it? Why would you run away from a billiard table? Do they have wheels?
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TwigtheWonderkid
6,094 posts
19 months
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sday12 said: POSH was used by P&O Indeed. They picked up on the popular myth and exploited it. Even now they have the POSH club loyalty scheme, like frequent flyer. But...they never sold port out starboard home tickets and stamped them POSH. It's a complete lie. (they might be selling them now, as a marketing ploy.)
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JuniorD
3,069 posts
92 months
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DrTre said: TwigtheWonderkid said: Did you know the word "gullable" isn't in the dictionary!  Er...it's not... (think I've missed something) Really don't know what to make of this... 
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sday12
4,194 posts
80 months
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Hugo a Gogo said: sday12 said: TwigtheWonderkid said: Tanguero said: Would you would believe anything from a web site that says "passengers on P&O (Peninsula and Orient) "??? If they can't get the name of the company right what other rubbish are they peddling? What do you think P & O stands for??? Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company I should know, I worked for them for a decade. POSH was used by P&O A swan could break your arm, but only in the way a billiard table couldOk, Hugh a go-go /pedant I was wrong once, 1973. PeninsulaR and OrientAL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peninsular_and_Orient...
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Hugo a Gogo
15,179 posts
102 months
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sday12 said: Hugo a Gogo said: sday12 said: TwigtheWonderkid said: Tanguero said: Would you would believe anything from a web site that says "passengers on P&O (Peninsula and Orient) "??? If they can't get the name of the company right what other rubbish are they peddling? What do you think P & O stands for??? Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company I should know, I worked for them for a decade. POSH was used by P&O A swan could break your arm, but only in the way a billiard table couldOk, Hugh a go-go /pedant I was wrong twice, 1973, and just now PeninsulaR and OrientAL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peninsular_and_Orient...
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monthefish
15,740 posts
100 months
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Newtons laws, specifically this whole force, and 'equal and opposite reaction'.
So I push down on a table with a force of 50N. The table just happens to apply an equal and opoposite force at the very same time, does it?
What a clever table.
And then this 'magic' table knows exactly when I'm about to stop applying this force, and manages to stop applying its equal and opposite force the very same monent I do?
Right-o.
Sorry. I don't buy it.
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shtu
509 posts
15 months
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DanDC5 said: marcosgt said: You seem surprised?  I saw someone troop the POSH story out as fact a few days ago on TV. Even QI recycles untruths! M They're usually followed up with Steven Fry **reading what has been put on the card for him by the intern researcher**. ^efa there. The myth that Stephen Fry is some hyper-intelligent being persists, despite much evidence to the contrary. 
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odyssey2200
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wormburner
6,397 posts
122 months
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monthefish said: Newtons laws, specifically this whole force, and 'equal and opposite reaction'.
So I push down on a table with a force of 50N. The table just happens to apply an equal and opoposite force at the very same time, does it?
What a clever table.
And then this 'magic' table knows exactly when I'm about to stop applying this force, and manages to stop applying its equal and opposite force the very same monent I do?
Right-o.
Sorry. I don't buy it. I'm not sure about buying it. I think it might be understanding it that you don't do. Don't think about 'pushing back', think about 'withstanding'. If it didn't withstand the force you put on it, it would collapse. Equally, if it hadn't 'withstood' your effort, then you wouldn't have actually made any effort - you wouldn't have expended any effort in pushing, because nothing was withstanding (pushing back against) your push.
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P-Jay
3,648 posts
60 months
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dibbers006 said: - I will never go swimming on a full stomach, that is just crazy talk.
I managed, as I'm an idiot at times, to turn up 30 mins early for my Son's swimming lesson a few months ago. He was starving (as usual) so I treated him to some awful cafe chips whilst we waiting. His coach spotted us and told me off for letting him eat just before swimming. I was politely trying not to smirk before she said "I know what you're thinking, it's actually a pool rule with the kids, now and again we get one come in on a full tummy, we start training them, they work a bit hard and throw up, then the pool's closed for a day or two for cleaning and it costs a fortune". So it’s a lie, in most respects, but not a complete lie. (or so I’m told) and I have had a few sessions cancelled for “pool cleaning”. Also whilst on the subject of pools, anyone who's been on Hols to France will know a lot of public and resort pools over there insist on 'Speedo' type costumes and not board shorts. A lot of people think it's to discourage fat types (like me) from stripping off and upsetting those delicate French sensibilities. It's actually more practical, they just don't want to spend their time pulling handfuls of pubes out of the filters.
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Bill
26,508 posts
124 months
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olly22n said: Why would you run away from a billiard table? Do they have wheels? Swans don't 
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monthefish
15,740 posts
100 months
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wormburner said: monthefish said: Newtons laws, specifically this whole force, and 'equal and opposite reaction'.
So I push down on a table with a force of 50N. The table just happens to apply an equal and opoposite force at the very same time, does it?
What a clever table.
And then this 'magic' table knows exactly when I'm about to stop applying this force, and manages to stop applying its equal and opposite force the very same monent I do?
Right-o.
Sorry. I don't buy it. I'm not sure about buying it. I think it might be understanding it that you don't do. Don't think about 'pushing back', think about 'withstanding'. If it didn't withstand the force you put on it, it would collapse. Equally, if it hadn't 'withstood' your effort, then you wouldn't have actually made any effort - you wouldn't have expended any effort in pushing, because nothing was withstanding (pushing back against) your push. It's not 'withstanding'. The sum of the forces, and the sum of the moments, in any static system is zero. If a new force is added to the system it will start to accelerate, or it won't. If it doesn't, there 'apparently' must be an equal and opposite force acting on the system. Where did that force come from? My post is a bit tongue-in-cheek (I'm a Chartered Engineer ) but I think it is a bit of a convinient explanation, as if Newton thought he had done a good job on the rest of the laws, it was lunchtime on a Friday and he wanted to get down the pub, so he just came up with 'f**k it, let's just say there's an equal force coming from somewhere, that'll do'.
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wormburner
6,397 posts
122 months
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monthefish said: wormburner said: monthefish said: Newtons laws, specifically this whole force, and 'equal and opposite reaction'.
So I push down on a table with a force of 50N. The table just happens to apply an equal and opoposite force at the very same time, does it?
What a clever table.
And then this 'magic' table knows exactly when I'm about to stop applying this force, and manages to stop applying its equal and opposite force the very same monent I do?
Right-o.
Sorry. I don't buy it. I'm not sure about buying it. I think it might be understanding it that you don't do. Don't think about 'pushing back', think about 'withstanding'. If it didn't withstand the force you put on it, it would collapse. Equally, if it hadn't 'withstood' your effort, then you wouldn't have actually made any effort - you wouldn't have expended any effort in pushing, because nothing was withstanding (pushing back against) your push. It's not 'withstanding'. The sum of the forces, and the sum of the moments, in any static system is zero. If a new force is added to the system it will start to accelerate, or it won't. If it doesn't, there 'apparently' must be an equal and opposite force acting on the system. Where did that force come from? My post is a bit tongue-in-cheek (I'm a Chartered Engineer ) but I think it is a bit of a convinient explanation, as if Newton thought he had done a good job on the rest of the laws, it was lunchtime on a Friday and he wanted to get down the pub, so he just came up with 'f**k it, let's just say there's an equal force coming from somewhere, that'll do'. gotcha, no bother.  Your post implied an 'intelligence' in the table that makes decisions.
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dibbers006
Original Poster
6,259 posts
87 months
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If equal and opposite was a Friday job. Newtonian Liquids were a hungover Monday morning when the report was unwritten and due.
Er... yeah, it's a solid... er, AND a liquid... yeah, that'll do.
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DanDC5
6,937 posts
36 months
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shtu said: DanDC5 said: marcosgt said: You seem surprised? I saw someone troop the POSH story out as fact a few days ago on TV. Even QI recycles untruths! M They're usually followed up with Steven Fry **reading what has been put on the card for him by the intern researcher**. ^efa there. The myth that Stephen Fry is some hyper-intelligent being persists, despite much evidence to the contrary. Just being picky with the details now.
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shakotan
5,695 posts
65 months
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PHmember said: Steamer said: ...it will take off. PMSL!!! No, no it won't.... What absolute rubbish.
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bigbubba
839 posts
88 months
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monthefish said: I'm a Chartered Engineer I am glad to see that you are keeping the PH ideal of stating unimportant facts to make yourself look better! 
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