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tight5

1,026 posts

28 months

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Monday 16th July 2012 quote quote all
rs1952 said:
All railways in the UK are measured in miles and chains
scotland uses miles and yards .

Dogwatch said:
surprised in this day and age of political correctness, kow-towing to brussels etc that new signs have old fashioned miles and chains on them.
they use kilometers on overhead line structures -



BS - route
08 - km from start
44 - mast number in that km

Yertis

11,700 posts

135 months

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Monday 16th July 2012 quote quote all
So three different measurement systems on one network?




cool



Just as an aside, down where I live there is still a lot of broad gauge rail (not track) in use by the railway. Not for trains to run on, obviously, but for fence posts.

tight5

1,026 posts

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Monday 16th July 2012 quote quote all
Yertis said:
So three different measurement systems on one network?
it gets worse ,
sectional appendix ( gives route information ) has the length of loops in SLU ( standard length units ).
TOPS list gives length of train in meters .
QTRON data recorder ( with a train length feature ) uses feet .

rs1952

3,274 posts

128 months

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Monday 16th July 2012 quote quote all
Yertis said:
Just as an aside, down where I live there is still a lot of broad gauge rail (not track) in use by the railway. Not for trains to run on, obviously, but for fence posts.
There's a photograph of mine showing this usage between Calne and Chippenham, in Panoramio, that wasn't selected for Google Earth.

If somebody knows a way to get a photo ID out of Panoramio to post as a link, please let me know, because I can't find one smile

Now found a way smilehttp://www.panoramio.com/photo/73465486



Edited by rs1952 on Monday 16th July 16:17

JB!

3,845 posts

49 months

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Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
tight5 said:
they use kilometers on overhead line structures -



BS - route
08 - km from start
44 - mast number in that km
Not true on West Coast Main Line, and elsewhere too:

"BY" - Gantry code, Nearest regional station? Bletchley is BY, Northampton is NN, Rugby is RY...
"35" - Miles from Low milage.
"07" - 7th Gabtry in that mile.

The ONLY people left on the railways who actively use chains are survey teams (& measurement trains), it's mad, everyone else works in miles & yards, chains are too innacurate for maintainace as 1ch=22y.

HS1 & 2 are KM based.

But "miles" on the railway are rarely miles, navvies were paid per chain, and it's easy to loose a link or two...
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Sprouts

805 posts

58 months

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Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
HHmmmmm, what an interesting thread. I've never heard of a chain. So it's a wicket ?

Sprouts

805 posts

58 months

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Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
Ohhhhh, chain gang. With you now.

  • gets back in bed *

JB!

3,845 posts

49 months

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Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
Sprouts said:
Ohhhhh, chain gang. With you now.

  • gets back in bed *
Or "length" gang. The railway is full of wierd measurements.

tight5

1,026 posts

28 months

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Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
JB! said:
Not true on West Coast Main Line, and elsewhere too:
well it is true on east coast



pic taken just north of newcastle , no place around there that starts with 'E' .
the masts south of newcastle have an 'E' also .

JB! said:
"35" - Miles from Low milage.
definitely in kilometers ( on east coast )

JB! said:
The ONLY people left on the railways who actively use chains are survey teams (& measurement trains), it's mad, everyone else works in miles & yards
oh ?



weekly oprating notice , so drivers use it ( and thats from carlisle on the west coast )

JB! said:
chains are too innacurate for maintainace as 1ch=22y.
just as accurate as any other unit !

JB!

3,845 posts

49 months

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Wednesday 18th July 2012 quote quote all
tight5 said:
East clash stuffs
Weirdos!

Our WON was always in miles an yards, and so were the work packs, Geogis, Ellipse work orders...

W124Bob

814 posts

44 months

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Thursday 19th July 2012 quote quote all
Fun that the NR rulebook went metric several years ago which still catches me out,mind you Im old enough to have worked loose coupled trains and steam heat boilers,still a few of us old gits around!

JB!

3,845 posts

49 months

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Friday 20th July 2012 quote quote all
W124Bob said:
Fun that the NR rulebook went metric several years ago which still catches me out,mind you Im old enough to have worked loose coupled trains and steam heat boilers,still a few of us old gits around!
They teach the PTS in both metric and imperial now, infact all of my tickets use both!

V8 FOU

722 posts

16 months

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Friday 20th July 2012 quote quote all
Love those "proper" units.
Chains, furlongs, rod,pole or perch.
I know what a thou looks like but 1/10 mm?? Dunno...

My customers still complain at being charged in guineas. VAT @ 20% does rather cock up Guineas tho....
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