Do you ever feel 'flat'

Do you ever feel 'flat'

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NightRunner

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12,230 posts

194 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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Morning all


I go running ~4times a week. Last year I was up to about 25ish miles a week however this plummeted due to me being ill for Q1 this year.

I'm now building back up by doing a couple of miles 4 times a week. Sometimes I do more as I feel great and can do double/triple that.

However I went running last night and it was a real pain in the arse, like I was running through treacle.

Does anyone have this? Is there anyway to minimise it?

Thanks

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

192 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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yep.

dunno.

sometimes it just feels like a huge chore.

Hoofy

76,366 posts

282 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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Eat well, drink well, sleep well. I'd look at those aspects of your life first.

Someone will be along shortly to advise going to your doctor for some anti-depressants. hehe

NightRunner

Original Poster:

12,230 posts

194 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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Hoofy said:
Eat well, drink well, sleep well. I'd look at those aspects of your life first.

Someone will be along shortly to advise going to your doctor for some anti-depressants. hehe
Ha ha, then they can just fk off wink

Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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It's funny I was going to start a thread on exactly the same topic. Sometimes when I go running or get on the C2 or do weights or whatever the legs feel really heavy and I have no energy.

I guess the human body is just that and as such you're bound to have off days.

Probably age as well frown

extraT

1,758 posts

150 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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Some of you may have seen my diet thread. At the moment I am on a massive health kick.

In four days I have been for 3 runs. These are the first three runs of my running career- I have never really run before, and so i'm nowhere near as experienced as the OP.

However after two great runs which increased in pace and distance, today was awful. After just 2km I had got a stitch (I normally run before breakfast, so that cant be down to food or drink), and I just felt like crap after around 500 meters. Managed to push through to 5km, but I guess sometimes you're really up for it, and sometimes you're not.

theshrew

6,008 posts

184 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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I'm the same sometimes feel good others rubbish always put my poor days down to being tired

goldblum

10,272 posts

167 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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Cycle your runs properly and allow for sufficient recovery,which you are not.

NightRunner

Original Poster:

12,230 posts

194 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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extraT said:
Some of you may have seen my diet thread. At the moment I am on a massive health kick.

In four days I have been for 3 runs. These are the first three runs of my running career- I have never really run before, and so i'm nowhere near as experienced as the OP.

However after two great runs which increased in pace and distance, today was awful. After just 2km I had got a stitch (I normally run before breakfast, so that cant be down to food or drink), and I just felt like crap after around 500 meters. Managed to push through to 5km, but I guess sometimes you're really up for it, and sometimes you're not.
Not seen it, but I'll have a read. I can never run in the morning, just not my thing.

I usually go out in the evening, just feels 'nicer' if you get me.

antspants

2,402 posts

175 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Is it perhaps due to not being warmed up properly?
I'm no expert btw, but tend to find that when I cycle the first couple of miles can be hard work until I'm warmed up, particularly if I've ridden a few times that week already.
Once the first couple of miles are out of the way, lungs and legs just seem to loosen up and I'm away.
Maybe not enough rest time between exercise, you know yourself when your legs feel heavy before you've even started smile

mattikake

5,057 posts

199 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Sometimes you just have an off-day. The secret is to know that almost inevitably happens and to not let it get the better of your morale.

There's so many hormones involved in exercise (epinephrine, norepinephrine, glucagon, insulin, cortisol, aldosterone, thyroxine, growth hormone, estrogen, and testosterone, insulin, growth hormone, dopamine, endorphones... no name only a few), pre/post and during. It only takes one to be out affecting your homeostatis and it will really screw up your performance.

It's also possible that your circadian rythm may have adjusted in your time off. You could try running at a different time of the day.

chrisobrien54

308 posts

197 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I can usually tell if it's going to be a good run in the first 100mtrs - if I'm feeling tired, and running like a marionette it's going to be a good one!

If I'm energetic and running straight - it'll be crap.

Takes about 2.5 miles to get fully warned up.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I've been running competitively for 25 years and still have days like the OP describes. The main thing (for me) is that I get out and do the run anyway. That way, when I feel like that on race day, I know I can push through it.

Merlin28

658 posts

148 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Yep had a bad run yesterday not out of breath but legs were twice as heavy, my mate advised me to leave at least 48hrs between runs so your muscles have time to recover.

LordGrover

33,545 posts

212 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Hoofy said:
Eat well, drink well, sleep well. I'd look at those aspects of your life first.
Spot on IMO. Sometimes we like to over-complicate these simple things.
We're designed/built to run pretty much daily. Good food and rest is all that is required for fun runners. Clearly different if you're an elite athlete or marathoner but for most of us here, eat and rest.
PS I wouldn't bother faffing about with water bottles or energy drinks for short runs less than 10kms - it just makes you look a little ridiculous. Like the fat joggers are going to die of dehydration in half an hour. Too much is made of this recently - I suspect excess water sloshing about in your gut is more likely to be an issue than a lack of it. IMO. wink

f1_dragon

310 posts

224 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I find that if I am dehydrated, it affects my energy levels and how I feel during a run. I normaly run first thing, so e.g. for my longish Sunday run, I make sure I drink plenty of water during the day and evening on the Saturday.

996 sps

6,165 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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OP - Somehting worth looking at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm

I'm doing a study on timings for performance at the moment with a rugby team, they are completing the Multi Stage Fitness Test at 0800/1300 and 1800, from this i'm hoping to find the "best performance time" for them in general, i've always been an early riser for cardio (although ran at lunchtime today) and strength/X-Fit on an evening (just finished weights 1/2 hour ago), but thats my routine.

The say as core body temp increase so does performance, but there is a study saying that 20minutes on a general warm up will increase body temp enough to nearly gain the same optimal performance, but the perofrmance tests are all different, vertical jump test, windgate test, swimming performance, anerobic power, but generally 1400 onwards up until 2000 are the "best times" to train, 1800 being when the majority of world records have been set.

There's timings for which testosterone is at its highest in the body blah blah, but something I wish i'd have thought about years ago.

But in answer to your post I sometimes feel flat but I read once in a magazine "better to do something than nothing at all" and even when I feel flat i'll just crack something, even if its 20 minutes on the rower.

Last bit before I bore you to death, i'll be on mountain bike knackered and could swear I had a punture or i'm in mud as my legs are lactic and I look at my back tyre, its fully inflated and there is no mud, i'll have a sly chuckle to myself but keep plodding on - as I bet you do with your running.

996 sps

6,165 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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LordGrover said:
Hoofy said:
Eat well, drink well, sleep well. I'd look at those aspects of your life first.
Spot on IMO. Sometimes we like to over-complicate these simple things.
We're designed/built to run pretty much daily. Good food and rest is all that is required for fun runners. Clearly different if you're an elite athlete or marathoner but for most of us here, eat and rest.
PS I wouldn't bother faffing about with water bottles or energy drinks for short runs less than 10kms - it just makes you look a little ridiculous. Like the fat joggers are going to die of dehydration in half an hour. Too much is made of this recently - I suspect excess water sloshing about in your gut is more likely to be an issue than a lack of it. IMO. wink
I also agree with this in many respects sometimes to much knowledge is dangerous, if you can't train at a certain times such is life unless your Mr Bolt and co, the race I done Sunday people were putting there gels in a transition area (and fair play to them i'm not putting them down, each to there own) but i'm still Mr bannana, flapjack, water and carbs if my pockets will allow thats what goes in the body.