Different rules about tyre and wheel widths

Different rules about tyre and wheel widths

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alolympic

Original Poster:

700 posts

197 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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I am trying to decide on the size of tyres needed for my car.
Car is a modified classic, so no original spec to work from.

I have been reading about which width of tyre to fit to which width of wheel, and I am surprised to have come across a new guideline.

you can find it written here amongst other places -
http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg4.html

For my example, you can choose a 195/50 15 tyre - it says you can fit to a wheel between 5.5" and 7" wide

If you then just reduce the aspect ratio to a 45 - so 195/45 15 - it says you then need a wheel between 6.5" and 8" wide.

Problem is, my wheel is 6" wide and the 195/45 gives me the rolling diameter I want.
How seriously should I take this guide?
What will the result when fitting a 195/45 to a 6" rim??


Evangelion

7,723 posts

178 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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The lower the profile of the tyre, the nearer its width has to be to the width of the wheel, because the sidewall can stretch less to accommodate the difference.

alolympic

Original Poster:

700 posts

197 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Evangelion said:
The lower the profile of the tyre, the nearer its width has to be to the width of the wheel, because the sidewall can stretch less to accommodate the difference.
Brilliantly put, thanks.
So, would my tyre choice on a 6" wheel be undesirable then? would choosing a tyre with a relatively soft sidewall, like a Continental Premium Contact lessen the impact?

HustleRussell

24,690 posts

160 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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There's a very useful interactive calculator here which you can use to calculate and compare tyre circumferences:

http://www.alloywheels.com/Tyre_Calculator

Personally I'd go to a 185/45r15 or possibly 175/50r15 (which matches the circumference of the 195/45r15 perfectly).

It would certainly be possible to fit the 195 onto a 6" rim but the tyre would be pinched inwards at the beads- whether this would cause a perceptible difference to handling I am not sure, but I wouldn't do it personally.

AtticusFinch

27,010 posts

183 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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A question. If you fit wider wheels and tyres should you keep the tyre pressure the same?

Logic would suggest you should run a lower pressure but somewhere I thought I heard {in the dim and distant past} you should runa higher pressure in a wider wheel/tyre set up?

stevieturbo

17,260 posts

247 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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What does the tyre manufacturer recommend ?

Straying too far either side probably isnt a great idea. But then look at all the dheads who fit narrow tyres onto wide rims to achieve a stretch. As much as I think it is ridiculous, there havent been too many serious accidents because of it. Which in itself is amazing.

AtticusFinch

27,010 posts

183 months

Sunday 22nd July 2012
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No recommendations. It's a "67" Sunbeam Alpine. It now has 185/70/13 original tyre 6" x 13" @ 24 PSI

SlimJim16v

5,654 posts

143 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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A 195/45 on a 9" wheel is crazy. 6" with 7" max I'd say, so 6" will be fine.
Unless you want the Euro look, with narrow tyres dangerously stretched onto a too wide wheel, yuck.

littleredrooster

5,537 posts

196 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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SlimJim16v said:
A 195/45 on a 9" wheel is crazy.
Sorry, but where did the 9" wheel come from? I thought we were talking about a 6" wheel...

SlimJim16v

5,654 posts

143 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Meant to say 8", as per the OP "If you then just reduce the aspect ratio to a 45 - so 195/45 15 - it says you then need a wheel between 6.5" and 8" wide"

PaulKemp

979 posts

145 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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195 on a 6" is fine 1/2" less wheel width equates to 1/4" on each sidewall no big deal, but you are near the limits for correct handling, I would question the low profile on a classic car, most need a bit of sidewall to help the suspension.
We run 205-50-15 on 6" no problem
I am moving from 185-60-14 to 205-60-13 on the rear and find its a bit wide for the rims (6"), will change to 6.5 or 185-60-13 when I have worn out the 205 R888's