|
Mermaid
12,497 posts
40 months
|
Jimbeaux said: As I am mostly alone, I have to lean harder. I have this image of Jim attempting to plug the democratic ailment.  
|
|
|
Marf
22,907 posts
110 months
|
Jimbeaux said: Seems like a bit of a storm in a teacup really, bit like Romney's "gaffes".
|
|
|
Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
|
Marf said: Seems like a bit of a storm in a teacup really, bit like Romney's "gaffes". It is; however, if a quip about the Olympics that the Brits themselves said was true pissed them off, what should tossing Winston in the closet do?
|
|
|
unrepentant
14,407 posts
125 months
|
stevejh said: John McCain had to go to great lengths to prove he was eligible to be President because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone whereas the media let Obama off the hook despite the fact that his father was Kenyan and there seemed to be only circumstantial evidence that Obama was actually born in Hawaii. Why did it take so long for his birth certificate to be released if there was nothing to hide?
Obama's book proposal claimed he was born in Kenya for over 16 years without being corrected, which would make him ineligible to be president.
In the 2008 election John McCain released thousand pages of medical records (possibly a worry in itself), Obama has only released one summary page.
Obama seems to have had very close contacts with some rather reactionary people (Bill Ayers for example) which I appreciate would be more of a concern to a mostly right leaning US electorate than it would to us over here but the media still seems to be going out of it's way to avoid asking too many questions about this.
As I understand it Romney is only required to release two years of tax returns which he has done. Why should he release any more when the only reason for doing so would be to give the Democrats more ammunition to use against him. If he has done anything wrong then it's up to them to prove his guilt and surely, if there really is evidence that he has illegally not paid tax then the IRS would get involved.
There's more but the point is that Obama has a past that he is not being entirely up front about. If he has nothing to hide then why is he so reluctant for his past to be examined. Obama published his full long form birth certificate. Only the truly bonkers like Trump still question where he was born. He has hidden nothing. McCain released medical records because he was a 72 year old cancer survivor and he needed to reassure the electorate that he wasn't going to die in office, something that became even more pressing after he rejected Romney and chose a whack job as his running mate. Every other presidential candidate in recent times has made full disclosure of tax returns, a tradition started by Romney's own father who rightly stated that "One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show, and what mattered in personal finance was how a man conducted himself over the long haul." Bill Ayres? Are you serious?
|
|
|
Stedman
4,855 posts
61 months
|
Jimbeaux said: BenM77 said: Interesting thread, reading up on 'fast and furious' now and it is quite shocking to say the least. Are you 100% serious that you lot have heard nothing about that scandal????? If so, then my point has been made. I genuinely had not heard of it, and I try to at least keep an eye on what's being going on your side of the pond. (Been off the boil though, these last few months admittedly).
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
unrepentant
14,407 posts
125 months
|
Jimbeaux said: Yes. Go back, before you arrived on PH IIRC, and see me asking for people to give Obama a chance, etc.  I have been sparring with you since before the last election and I don't remember you ever having a good word for Obama. You'll need to put up some links. 
|
|
|
Marf
22,907 posts
110 months
|
Jimbeaux said: Marf said: Seems like a bit of a storm in a teacup really, bit like Romney's "gaffes". It is; however, if a quip about the Olympics that the Brits themselves said was true pissed them off, what should tossing Winston in the closet do? Honestly, probably not that much. If it had then no doubt it'd have hit the presses when the story originally surfaced. Though in this period of pre-election mud slinging it may still rear it's head.
|
|
|
Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
|
Stedman said: Jimbeaux said: BenM77 said: Interesting thread, reading up on 'fast and furious' now and it is quite shocking to say the least. Are you 100% serious that you lot have heard nothing about that scandal????? If so, then my point has been made. I genuinely had not heard of it, and I try to at least keep an eye on what's being going on your side of the pond. (Been off the boil though, these last few months admittedly). There is that, the hot mic issue with the Russian leader, the "You didn't build that" insult to small business leaders, and there is more. None of this gets to you guys?
|
|
|
rohrl
3,749 posts
14 months
|
|
|
Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
|
unrepentant said: Jimbeaux said: Yes. Go back, before you arrived on PH IIRC, and see me asking for people to give Obama a chance, etc. I have been sparring with you since before the last election and I don't remember you ever having a good word for Obama. You'll need to put up some links. All in the posting history; have fun on your hunt.
|
|
|
Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
|
rohrl said: You need to look deeper.
|
|
|
unrepentant
14,407 posts
125 months
|
|
|
Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
|
|
|
rohrl
3,749 posts
14 months
|
Jimbeaux said: You need to look deeper. Why, was someone other than Bush in the White House in 2006? Winking smilies do not comprise an argument. If you want to say sopmething or explain what you mean you need to type it.
|
|
|
unrepentant
14,407 posts
125 months
|
Jimbeaux said: unrepentant said: Jimbeaux said: Yes. Go back, before you arrived on PH IIRC, and see me asking for people to give Obama a chance, etc. I have been sparring with you since before the last election and I don't remember you ever having a good word for Obama. You'll need to put up some links. All in the posting history; have fun on your hunt.  You're so FOS it's funny.
|
|
|
Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
|
unrepentant said: Jimbeaux said: unrepentant said: Jimbeaux said: Yes. Go back, before you arrived on PH IIRC, and see me asking for people to give Obama a chance, etc. I have been sparring with you since before the last election and I don't remember you ever having a good word for Obama. You'll need to put up some links. All in the posting history; have fun on your hunt. You're so FOS it's funny. Easy, trust me, I had good things to say, it is in the 2008 posting areas.
|
|
|
Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
|
rohrl said: Jimbeaux said: You need to look deeper. Why, was someone other than Bush in the White House in 2006? Winking smilies do not comprise an argument. If you want to say sopmething or explain what you mean you need to type it. No, the whole issue revolves around the ongoing program's management. In 2010-11, things were allowed to transpire that led to the death of the agent. AG Holder kept facts from the public and the agent's family; he has claimed he "knew nothing" of the operation that is being run by his agency.
|
|
|
Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
|
I have Huuricane meetings to attend; back later.
|
|
|
Mermaid
12,497 posts
40 months
|
Jimbeaux said: I have Huuricane meetings to attend; back later. It will all have calmed down by the time you get back 
|
|
|
chris watton
12,369 posts
129 months
|
It’s funny; I never read/heard much criticism of Obama before, during or after his election victory. Is Obama really that good and saintly that the only places you can read any type of criticism is the right wing media? The left seem to worship him as some kind of second coming, and as such, beyond any criticism of any kind whatsoever – and the nasty Tea Party want to lynch him while wearing their favourite KKK outfits (Not really, but you get the gist…)
Did you hear the one about Obama? No, nor me – imagine the Twitter backlash if one of these ‘edgy’ leftie comedians dared such a thing.
|
|
I will leave this to others. Nah, we go back too far; here you go:
