speed awareness course

[benny 61]

A quick question. A colleague at work is going on a speed awareness course, so I asked what speed did you get caught at?
35 in a 30 he said.
Now I thought you were allowed 10% + 2 = 35. So do the PH massive think he maybe telling lies.

[Ledaig]

10%+2 is the recommended threshold to start prosecutions at.

[R0G]

Ledaig said:

10%+2 is the recommended threshold to start prosecutions at.

And 31 mph would be speeding....

[seanh]

A colleague of mine was done for 73 in a 70 recently and sent on one of these courses. I guess they were trying to make up numbers that week.

[LordHaveMurci]

seanh said:

A colleague of mine was done for 73 in a 70 recently and sent on one of these courses. I guess they were trying to make up numbers that week.

Or your colleague is telling fibs?

[streaky]

seanh said:

A colleague of mine was done for 73 in a 70 recently and sent on one of these courses. I guess they were trying to make up numbers that week.

Evidence would be appreciated. AFAIK, no PHer has ever adduced on here any documentary evidence in support of claims of "speeding" at less than the ACPO "bottom level" of 'limit' X 10% + 2 mph over the posted limit.

Streaky

[seanh]

streaky said:

Evidence would be appreciated. AFAIK, no PHer has ever adduced on here any documentary evidence in support of claims of "speeding" at less than the ACPO "bottom level" of 'limit' X 10% + 2 mph over the posted limit.

Streaky

Said colleague isn't in the office today, but I'll ask him on Monday whether he was embellishing the story somewhat. It was a couple of months ago and the figures stuck in my mind.

[BusaMK]

My mum attended a course a year ago for doing 34 in a 30. I couldn't beleive my eyes at the NIP.

[eccles]

streaky said:

seanh said:

A colleague of mine was done for 73 in a 70 recently and sent on one of these courses. I guess they were trying to make up numbers that week.

Evidence would be appreciated. AFAIK, no PHer has ever adduced on here any documentary evidence in support of claims of "speeding" at less than the ACPO "bottom level" of 'limit' X 10% + 2 mph over the posted limit.

Streaky

I've seen with my own eyes the paperwork of a bloke in work who got done for 34 in a 30. He got an awareness course. Girlfriends step mum has just done one for 35 in a 30.

[lbc]

As with all these, 'a mate of mine colleagues sisters brothers fathers mother' type posts, nobody has ever posted evidence of a NIP at less than 10% of the speed limit alleged to have been exceeded.

Just word of mouth bull, until someone actually posts evidence.

[eccles]

lbc said:

As with all these, 'a mate of mine colleagues sisters brothers fathers mother' type posts, nobody has ever posted evidence of a NIP at less than 10% of the speed limit alleged to have been exceeded.

Just word of mouth bull, until someone actually posts evidence.

So you're saying I'm a liar then? I saw it with my own eyes.

[lbc]

eccles said:

lbc said:

As with all these, 'a mate of mine colleagues sisters brothers fathers mother' type posts, nobody has ever posted evidence of a NIP at less than 10% of the speed limit alleged to have been exceeded.

Just word of mouth bull, until someone actually posts evidence.

So you're saying I'm a liar then? I saw it with my own eyes.

34mph is 10% +1mph, so not referring to your post.

[Tonto]

Pretty sure its now 10% + 1mph.

[Benjy911]

I went on one back in November last year for doing 36 in a 30. The person next to me had been caught doing 33 in a 30, of course when they queried it to the person doing the talk they were soon told how that 3mph makes such a difference to your braking distance!

[Who me ?]

Benjy911 said:

I went on one back in November last year for doing 36 in a 30. The person next to me had been caught doing 33 in a 30, of course when they queried it to the person doing the talk they were soon told how that 3mph makes such a difference to your braking distance!

Using source
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_...
as no sign of this in new HC, this doc makes it aprox 5 yards.
But hang on ,any ancients on here who passed their test in the late 60's. I remember learning this by rote, and working out how to calculate stopping distance from a formula. At 30 it was total =75 yards. ( speed times 2.5 ,in feet).But what vehicle ,what brakes and tyres. Some old RWD on cross-ply tyres with drum brakes all round no servo and certainly no ABS.
Strange ( or is it ) that no changes have been made to the above PDF, OR is it another bit of fiddling with road safety by the so called road safety lot. I smell a rat ( usually found on sea going vessels), to justify keeping the "fees" for minor indiscretions in the local SCP hands .

[pitmansboots]

You don't meet the criteria for a course until the speed limit +10% +2mph is reached so those at 73 in a 70 and less than 35 in a 30 wouldn't be invited.
As someone said above it sounds like embellishment or distortion.

[theironduke]

I did a SAC

My crime....34 in a 30

[Who me ?]

pitmansboots said:

You don't meet the criteria for a course until the speed limit +10% +2mph is reached so those at 73 in a 70 and less than 35 in a 30 wouldn't be invited.
As someone said above it sounds like embellishment or distortion.

And as the old 45 record said "That's the name of the game"
Wondered when sonar would pick this thread up and you'd surface

[theironduke]

pitmansboots said:

You don't meet the criteria for a course until the speed limit +10% +2mph is reached so those at 73 in a 70 and less than 35 in a 30 wouldn't be invited.
As someone said above it sounds like embellishment or distortion.

I'm pretty sure I didn't imagine sitting in a stuffy room being bored to death for 6 hours....

[Trev and Jules]

Hi Collective

Just been sent a nice photo of me in car doing 39 in a 30 by Suffolk constabulary notice says I can attend a speed awareness course if I have not been on one in the last 3 years and these courses are only offered if the speed detected was up to 10% over plus 9mph above any speed limit (30 - 70) mph.

Cheers Trev