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oyster
5,220 posts
117 months
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redgriff500 said: Genelec said: Oh FFS people. Bet you were all perfect little angels as kids. Yeah, throw mud at cars = fractured skull. Why do I even read posts in here. I'm inches away from deleting my profile due to the sheer number of  s who post complete b ks. Are you still here ? If you don't want to play by someone else's rules, don't involve them in your games. YOU might not think mud thrown at your car = a kicking. I might. Some might believe shooting them is acceptable. Oh no, not the internet tough guy routine again. Presumably you're ok with the rule that says that driver assualted the kid and should go to jail?
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Shade
73 posts
37 months
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Good, little sh*t got what he deserved.
I remember a few years back me and some friends had a snow day of school and we were in a park in the middle of a roundabout. We were having a laugh with drivers chucking snowballs at their cars, but understandably a few weren't ok with this, so we didn't throw any. We knew most of them anyway, and we could see them laughing.
After a while a chap wound the window down to ask if we wouldn't throw any as his newborn daughter was in the back and it would scare her. Of course we agreed and he thanked us and left. As he did my pillock of a mate launched one straight at the back window. The bloke promptly got out and punched him square in the face before driving off. To me, he deserved a lot more. Unfortunately though, he ended up getting a few grand compensation and the guy got done for assault. Should have been the other way round.
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AndyNetwork
1,361 posts
63 months
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10 Pence Short said: Had I been concerned about other motorists' safety or that more than just mud was being thrown, I would have stopped a little further down the road and called the authorities. If my car had sustained damage I would have waited there for the Police and shown them the damage and exchanged details and told them I would be prepared to give a statement and/or attend court.
That would be the normal thing to do. Ok, so you have 3 or 4 hours + to stand by the side of the road, waiting for the Police to turn up to a non urgent call, only for them to say he's under 16, no insurance, bugger all we can do, whilst in all chances being goaded by the little t t? If so I commend you. Personally, whilst I don't advocate violence in any way, and feel that perhaps in this case the driver over reacted (We don't know the full story!) I feel that the general public are being let down, the courts should have more power to prosecute people caught doing wrong. All this liberal, oh, can't do f k all as his/her human rights will be violated s t is wrong. People/scrotes need to know that if they do something, anything, right or wrong, there are always consequences, some good, some bad, do something wrong, and you will be punished.
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10 Pence Short
27,632 posts
86 months
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Oh dear. Another hard of thinking individual in a thread full of them.
Someone is throwing objects at passing cars and, unfortunately, yours is one that's hit. You drive on a little further down the road, probably out of sight, so you're not in a conflict situation with the thrower of the objects, and then you call the Police. Using the wonders of modern communications, you are able to describe events and locations to the operator. The operator, being a human being with arms and legs and typing apparatus, magically stores your details so an officer can speak to you at a convenient time later on.
The beauty of such a scenario is the lack of confrontation, using the resources available to you and the Police, and you get to continue doing whatever you had been doing without having to break anyone's head or risk the same happening to you.
Obviously this removes opportunity to show one's true hard man status and impress any passing females by demonstrating your abilities to physically chastise a child, but such costs are there to be borne in a modern, decent society.
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oyster
5,220 posts
117 months
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Shade said: Good, little sh*t got what he deserved.
I remember a few years back me and some friends had a snow day of school and we were in a park in the middle of a roundabout. We were having a laugh with drivers chucking snowballs at their cars, but understandably a few weren't ok with this, so we didn't throw any. We knew most of them anyway, and we could see them laughing.
After a while a chap wound the window down to ask if we wouldn't throw any as his newborn daughter was in the back and it would scare her. Of course we agreed and he thanked us and left. As he did my pillock of a mate launched one straight at the back window. The bloke promptly got out and punched him square in the face before driving off. To me, he deserved a lot more. Unfortunately though, he ended up getting a few grand compensation and the guy got done for assault. Should have been the other way round. I'm intrigued - what did he deserve? A leg cut off perhaps? Maybe public beheading? For throwing a snowball? Really? This thread is hilarious. The amount of knuckle-dragging internet tough guys is making me laugh. I'd be willing to bet that if a scrote threw something at your car, you'd not intervene at all, but instead go home frothing at the mouth and vent anger in a post on PH.
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10 Pence Short
27,632 posts
86 months
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Possibly followed by a thread asking how to find a random scroate's address with which to serve small claims papers...
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toxicnerve
5,279 posts
46 months
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I'd say the reaction was OTT. Last year some kid threw a snowball at my car and it scared the s t out of me. I parked up and "had a word" with said oik. I didn't feel the need to "get physical" as such but I did put a hand on him to stop him walking away. He, and his mates (another couple of lads and a couple of girls), were pretty sheepish and apologised. I said that mucking about is fine but throwing snowballs (or anything else for that matter) at moving vehicles was not on as it could lead to an incident (moment of distraction type thing). I also added that others may not demonstrate restraint and a situation could end badly for them depending on who was in the car, which they have no way of telling at the time they lob the snowball. I left it at that and the kids walked off (muttering obscenities no doubt). I think that's all that is required. There's a very real chance that in "having a word" you get told to f k off or whatever by the kids but as an adult it's your job to do the right thing and no hospitalise a kid over something that is in reality fairly trivial.
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redgriff500
6,965 posts
132 months
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oyster said: redgriff500 said: Genelec said: Oh FFS people. Bet you were all perfect little angels as kids. Yeah, throw mud at cars = fractured skull. Why do I even read posts in here. I'm inches away from deleting my profile due to the sheer number of s who post complete b ks. Are you still here ? If you don't want to play by someone else's rules, don't involve them in your games. YOU might not think mud thrown at your car = a kicking. I might. Some might believe shooting them is acceptable. Oh no, not the internet tough guy routine again. Presumably you're ok with the rule that says that driver assualted the kid and should go to jail? Can you read ? I haven't said what I think is acceptable. I said: "If you don't want to play by someone else's rules, don't involve them in your games" I work with builders you wouldn't believe the stories I hear and the things I have seen. Be it road rage or kids in a playground YOU might not stab someone for no reason or throw them off a 2 story scaffold - others DO - that's a fact. It is best to avoid such people and you can't tell who they are by looks so DON'T involve them in your games - IE don't throw anything, at anything of someone else's.
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Kaelic
2,126 posts
70 months
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Kid created a situation where a confrontation was inevitable, should have known better, will know better next time! Problem is with the amount of knuckle draggers driving around Rochdale a stern word was never going to happen nor was a call to the local police. So idiot kid meets idiot driver and the physically stronger walks away.
Could have been avoided by the kid not being a nobber, can't say I have huge amounts of sympathy for him due to a situation of his own making. But having drivers (especially taxi drivers) going around and putting people into hospital, through accident or not is even worse.
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mercfunder
2,602 posts
42 months
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Shade said: Good, little sh*t got what he deserved. Seriously? You reckon a fractured skull is fair recompense for throwing a bit of mud at a car? 
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oyster
5,220 posts
117 months
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redgriff500 said: Can you read ?
I haven't said what I think is acceptable.
I said:
"If you don't want to play by someone else's rules, don't involve them in your games"
I work with builders you wouldn't believe the stories I hear and the things I have seen.
Be it road rage or kids in a playground YOU might not stab someone for no reason or throw them off a 2 story scaffold - others DO - that's a fact.
It is best to avoid such people and you can't tell who they are by looks so DON'T involve them in your games - IE don't throw anything, at anything of someone else's. Sorry, but your last sentence is akin to defending that kind of behaviour. Because what you're suggesting is that we should just bow down to the thugs. Thankfully the law of the jungle doesn't apply in the UK, and quite rightly those who try to settle arguments by violence usually lose their freedom soon afterwards.
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redgriff500
6,965 posts
132 months
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oyster said: redgriff500 said: Can you read ?
I haven't said what I think is acceptable.
I said:
"If you don't want to play by someone else's rules, don't involve them in your games"
I work with builders you wouldn't believe the stories I hear and the things I have seen.
Be it road rage or kids in a playground YOU might not stab someone for no reason or throw them off a 2 story scaffold - others DO - that's a fact.
It is best to avoid such people and you can't tell who they are by looks so DON'T involve them in your games - IE don't throw anything, at anything of someone else's. Sorry, but your last sentence is akin to defending that kind of behaviour. Because what you're suggesting is that we should just bow down to the thugs. Thankfully the law of the jungle doesn't apply in the UK, and quite rightly those who try to settle arguments by violence usually lose their freedom soon afterwards. No I live in the real world. If you are happy to be assaulted / stabbed / paralysed / killed on the basis that the attacker may end up inside - fine. Me - I'd rather live a long, healthy life by not messing with other people's possessions.
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Earl'Dingleberry
170 posts
9 months
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Good job by the driver on the little punk.
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Jasandjules
45,451 posts
98 months
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oyster said: Sorry, but your last sentence is akin to defending that kind of behaviour. Because what you're suggesting is that we should just bow down to the thugs. No the thug was the s**t that threw mud/stones at cars. Never forget that.
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oyster
5,220 posts
117 months
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Jasandjules said: oyster said: Sorry, but your last sentence is akin to defending that kind of behaviour. Because what you're suggesting is that we should just bow down to the thugs. No the thug was the s**t that threw mud/stones at cars. Never forget that. So throwing mud (maybe stones) at a car is worse than a grown man breaking a child's skull? Most normal people will be able to see who the real thug is in this situation. And the law would agree on this too. A car is just a piece of metal and is replaceable, a skull isn't.
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doogz
18,721 posts
56 months
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oyster said: So throwing mud (maybe stones) at a car is worse than a grown man breaking a child's skull?
Most normal people will be able to see who the real thug is in this situation. And the law would agree on this too.
A car is just a piece of metal and is replaceable, a skull isn't. You're either really dim, or you're missing the point on purpose. What if he threw some mud, or some mud with a stone, and it covered the windscreen, or smashed it? And the driver crashed, someone died. Unlikely you say? Probably about as unlikely as the 'thug' in your opinion actually getting out his car with the intent of literally breaking the kids skull. I'm not condoning what the driver done. But if the kid hadn't been stupid enough to be throwing things at passing cars, it'd never have happened. It's that simple.
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boobles
12,163 posts
84 months
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I agree with the above^^^. If the 15yr old had took a different path that day he wouldn't be in this situation & all would be well. He so happened to throw it at somebody who wasn't going to take this kind of sh** & he reacted the way ALOT of people would react. He didn't intentionally mean to crack his skull that I am sure of, but he reacted in the same way the most of us would.
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Big E 118
1,588 posts
38 months
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This is clearly an emotive subject.
Many have said that the kid getting a fractured skull is too severe a retaliation, agreed. How would you feel if the article stated that the kid was punched and had just received a split lip? Maybe more people would agree that he deserved it?
The obvious danger with resorting to violence means the same punch might not even hurt one person but could kill another. On the other side, slinging mud at one car might just make it a bit dirty while the next car could swerve and end up hitting a pedestrian.
Both parties put themselves into situations that could cause severe implications but the fact is only one party instigated it.
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NWTony
1,570 posts
97 months
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oyster said: So throwing mud (maybe stones) at a car is worse than a grown man breaking a child's skull?
Most normal people will be able to see who the real thug is in this situation. And the law would agree on this too.
A car is just a piece of metal and is replaceable, a skull isn't. A skull will repair itself however...
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Vipers
15,544 posts
97 months
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oyster said: So throwing mud (maybe stones) at a car is worse than a grown man breaking a child's skull? Child! Dont think so. And we are getting carried away with this "Breaking a child's skull". Yes it said he sustained a cracked skull, didnt say how this happened. Whether the driver threw a number of punches to his head, or juat a badly aimed clout we dont know. Maybe the driver was pissed off after a number of similar incidents and was at the end of his tether and lost his rag, and gave him a clout. Its children like these who think it is cool dropping concrete blocks from bridges onto passing cara. If nothing else, he may choose to stop pissing drivers off. 
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