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thinfourth2

32,414 posts

100 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
Edinburger said:
Perhaps but importantly they made an informed choice and didn't dismiss a prosperous independent Scotland.
Or maybe the greens have seen a control freak, big state, business hating bunch of idiots intent on destroying scotland and have thought i'm having some of that
Business hating?! You really do say some amazingly stupid, ignorant and uninformed things sometimes...
Okay i was wrong on the business hating

I'm sure fat alex enjoys a few nice jollies


Wombat3

7,683 posts

102 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
Edinburger said:
Perhaps but importantly they made an informed choice and didn't dismiss a prosperous independent Scotland.
Or maybe the greens have seen a control freak, big state, business hating bunch of idiots intent on destroying scotland and have thought i'm having some of that
Business hating?! You really do say some amazingly stupid, ignorant and uninformed things sometimes...
Okay i was wrong on the business hating

I'm sure fat alex enjoys a few nice jollies
He does appear to be single-handedly propping up the travel industry hehe

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

151 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
Yup, that's about what I read from most of your posts...
I suggest you learn to read then.

General Price

1,753 posts

79 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
Ironic coming from the biggest fking whiner on PH! laugh


ViperPict

9,909 posts

133 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
Edinburger said:
Perhaps but importantly they made an informed choice and didn't dismiss a prosperous independent Scotland.
Or maybe the greens have seen a control freak, big state, business hating bunch of idiots intent on destroying scotland and have thought i'm having some of that
Business hating?! You really do say some amazingly stupid, ignorant and uninformed things sometimes...
Okay i was wrong on the business hating

I'm sure fat alex enjoys a few nice jollies
It just shows how ignorant you are to the actual situation and how all your views are based on paranoia.

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ViperPict

9,909 posts

133 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
TheHeretic said:
ViperPict said:
Yup, that's about what I read from most of your posts...
I suggest you learn to read then.
I can read fine, just glaze over with your whiney nonsense for some reason...

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

151 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
I can read fine, just glaze over with your whiney nonsense for some reason...
hehe OK VP. You are an oracle, and I am a whiner. Got it.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

100 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
It just shows how ignorant you are to the actual situation and how all your views are based on paranoia.
Well sadly i can't base my views on anything else as the only info coming from the YES lot is semaphore

ViperPict

9,909 posts

133 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
TheHeretic said:
ViperPict said:
I can read fine, just glaze over with your whiney nonsense for some reason...
hehe OK VP. You are an oracle, and I am a whiner. Got it.
Now that we have that sort we can get somewhere... laugh

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

151 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
Agreed... Now give us some pearls of wisdom on the appropriate subject. We await your wisdom.

ViperPict

9,909 posts

133 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
TheHeretic said:
Agreed... Now give us some pearls of wisdom on the appropriate subject. We await your wisdom.
That, if independence gets the YES vote, we'll manage not too bad on our own.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

151 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
That, if independence gets the YES vote, we'll manage not too bad on our own.
No-one said otherwise depending on the economic, and domestic policies that a new government would undertake. That is what is up for discussion.

Edinburger

5,776 posts

64 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
TheHeretic said:
ViperPict said:
That, if independence gets the YES vote, we'll manage not too bad on our own.
No-one said otherwise depending on the economic, and domestic policies that a new government would undertake. That is what is up for discussion.
And other than the naysayers on here, there's not been much talk about those matters as yet.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

151 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
Edinburger said:
And other than the naysayers on here, there's not been much talk about those matters as yet.
Round and round we go... Well, when your politicians decide to actually start a discussion has already been part of this discussion, in the meantime, many people have tried to broach these things, to very little response.

EU membership
Fiscal policy
Defence policy
Taxation policy
National currency
and so on, and so forth.

All these things, and many more can be found within these threads. All of these things are perfectly valid discussion topics when it comes to a potential independent nation. All of these things we will apparently have to wait for the get go by Alex. When he is ready, THEN we can talk about it, seemingly, as the pro-independence people seem reticent to talk about it in this thread.

It does beg the question... If you do not want to talk about these things on this thread, then what do you want to talk about on this thread?

Edinburger

5,776 posts

64 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
TheHeretic said:
Edinburger said:
And other than the naysayers on here, there's not been much talk about those matters as yet.
Round and round we go... Well, when your politicians decide to actually start a discussion has already been part of this discussion, in the meantime, many people have tried to broach these things, to very little response.

EU membership
Fiscal policy
Defence policy
Taxation policy
National currency
and so on, and so forth.

All these things, and many more can be found within these threads. All of these things are perfectly valid discussion topics when it comes to a potential independent nation. All of these things we will apparently have to wait for the get go by Alex. When he is ready, THEN we can talk about it, seemingly, as the pro-independence people seem reticent to talk about it in this thread.

It does beg the question... If you do not want to talk about these things on this thread, then what do you want to talk about on this thread?
Aye, aye, I know all that. I’m talking about open public debate rather than a anonymous keyboard warriors and self-proclaimed experts.

But then, that's why we have two years to go.

Oh, and I have been involved in several discussions here on many of those topics.

ViperPict

9,909 posts

133 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
TheHeretic said:
Edinburger said:
And other than the naysayers on here, there's not been much talk about those matters as yet.
Round and round we go... Well, when your politicians decide to actually start a discussion has already been part of this discussion, in the meantime, many people have tried to broach these things, to very little response.

EU membership
Fiscal policy
Defence policy
Taxation policy
National currency
and so on, and so forth.

All these things, and many more can be found within these threads. All of these things are perfectly valid discussion topics when it comes to a potential independent nation. All of these things we will apparently have to wait for the get go by Alex. When he is ready, THEN we can talk about it, seemingly, as the pro-independence people seem reticent to talk about it in this thread.

It does beg the question... If you do not want to talk about these things on this thread, then what do you want to talk about on this thread?
We go back to the basic issue. You are caught up in the deterministic approach, I am not. We have fundamentally different ways of approaching this but you can't get your head around that and insist that I try and explain all the detail using your restrictive philosophy. How about you use the theory I propose to tell me why independence won't work?

London424

7,082 posts

71 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
TheHeretic said:
Edinburger said:
And other than the naysayers on here, there's not been much talk about those matters as yet.
Round and round we go... Well, when your politicians decide to actually start a discussion has already been part of this discussion, in the meantime, many people have tried to broach these things, to very little response.

EU membership
Fiscal policy
Defence policy
Taxation policy
National currency
and so on, and so forth.

All these things, and many more can be found within these threads. All of these things are perfectly valid discussion topics when it comes to a potential independent nation. All of these things we will apparently have to wait for the get go by Alex. When he is ready, THEN we can talk about it, seemingly, as the pro-independence people seem reticent to talk about it in this thread.

It does beg the question... If you do not want to talk about these things on this thread, then what do you want to talk about on this thread?
We go back to the basic issue. You are caught up in the deterministic approach, I am not. We have fundamentally different ways of approaching this but you can't get your head around that and insist that I try and explain all the detail using your restrictive philosophy. How about you use the theory I propose to tell me why independence won't work?
Sure, go for it. Explain away.

ViperPict

9,909 posts

133 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
London424 said:
ViperPict said:
TheHeretic said:
Edinburger said:
And other than the naysayers on here, there's not been much talk about those matters as yet.
Round and round we go... Well, when your politicians decide to actually start a discussion has already been part of this discussion, in the meantime, many people have tried to broach these things, to very little response.

EU membership
Fiscal policy
Defence policy
Taxation policy
National currency
and so on, and so forth.

All these things, and many more can be found within these threads. All of these things are perfectly valid discussion topics when it comes to a potential independent nation. All of these things we will apparently have to wait for the get go by Alex. When he is ready, THEN we can talk about it, seemingly, as the pro-independence people seem reticent to talk about it in this thread.

It does beg the question... If you do not want to talk about these things on this thread, then what do you want to talk about on this thread?
We go back to the basic issue. You are caught up in the deterministic approach, I am not. We have fundamentally different ways of approaching this but you can't get your head around that and insist that I try and explain all the detail using your restrictive philosophy. How about you use the theory I propose to tell me why independence won't work?
Sure, go for it. Explain away.
I am asking TH to explain why my approach is in error. Are you also suggesting that he should or misinterpretting what I wrote?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

151 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
We go back to the basic issue. You are caught up in the deterministic approach, I am not. We have fundamentally different ways of approaching this but you can't get your head around that and insist that I try and explain all the detail using your restrictive philosophy. How about you use the theory I propose to tell me why independence won't work?
For the nth time, I never said Independence will not work. If you can find that particular quote, go ahead. As for your deterministic approach stuff, and how we can't actually discuss anything in the future as 'who knows what could happen', if you don't want to discuss it, don't, but either explain your stance, or stop trying to divert and block discussion by bringing it up, as it basically means nothing. You are in this thread for a reason. It is either to discuss independence implication, or it is merely to wave a flag. If the former, great. If the latter, then we will k ow to ignore you.

I am quite happy with you having your view, and me having mine, but pretending that your approach is the best, and all others are inferior, and unworthy is frankly pathetic. You haven't, thus far, actually bothered to explain anything about your position, other than 'yay, independence!'.

London424

7,082 posts

71 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
London424 said:
ViperPict said:
TheHeretic said:
Edinburger said:
And other than the naysayers on here, there's not been much talk about those matters as yet.
Round and round we go... Well, when your politicians decide to actually start a discussion has already been part of this discussion, in the meantime, many people have tried to broach these things, to very little response.

EU membership
Fiscal policy
Defence policy
Taxation policy
National currency
and so on, and so forth.

All these things, and many more can be found within these threads. All of these things are perfectly valid discussion topics when it comes to a potential independent nation. All of these things we will apparently have to wait for the get go by Alex. When he is ready, THEN we can talk about it, seemingly, as the pro-independence people seem reticent to talk about it in this thread.

It does beg the question... If you do not want to talk about these things on this thread, then what do you want to talk about on this thread?
We go back to the basic issue. You are caught up in the deterministic approach, I am not. We have fundamentally different ways of approaching this but you can't get your head around that and insist that I try and explain all the detail using your restrictive philosophy. How about you use the theory I propose to tell me why independence won't work?
Sure, go for it. Explain away.
I am asking TH to explain why my approach is in error. Are you also suggesting that he should or misinterpretting what I wrote?
I have misunderstood. I was hoping you were going to use your theory to explain why it will work. Not have someone use your theory about why it won't.

Seeing as I don't know your theory can you explain it?
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