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Has anyone driven one ? We used to have a 40d and on paper the M50d seems a lot more powerful (about 30% up on power + torque)?
Been thinking of buying a Cayenne Diesel but have always had a soft spot for BMW's moon buggy....
Don't mean to start a debate about whether the M-Performance models are real //M cars - if this post belongs in the General BMW section, maybe one of the mods could please move it.
Been thinking of buying a Cayenne Diesel but have always had a soft spot for BMW's moon buggy....
Don't mean to start a debate about whether the M-Performance models are real //M cars - if this post belongs in the General BMW section, maybe one of the mods could please move it.
Kananga said:
Has anyone driven one ? We used to have a 40d and on paper the M50d seems a lot more powerful (about 30% up on power + torque)?
Been thinking of buying a Cayenne Diesel but have always had a soft spot for BMW's moon buggy....
Don't mean to start a debate about whether the M-Performance models are real //M cars - if this post belongs in the General BMW section, maybe one of the mods could please move it.
Did you know that there is a Cayenne 4.2 V8 diesel being launched in NovemberBeen thinking of buying a Cayenne Diesel but have always had a soft spot for BMW's moon buggy....
Don't mean to start a debate about whether the M-Performance models are real //M cars - if this post belongs in the General BMW section, maybe one of the mods could please move it.
thegreatdogwood said:
Did you know that there is a Cayenne 4.2 V8 diesel being launched in November
Yup, I had heard either the 4.2 or a bi-turbo 3.0. Either way, as assuming a vw unit of some kind ?My sense is that BMW has been more advanced in terms of diesel engine design. The new tri-turbo has some impressive stats.
My assumption was that the cayenne will have a hefty price tag (>£70k with some spec?)
Big difference to drive over 40d, which may seem difficult to imagine, but power and torque is just immense.
I must confess to not having driven the Cayenne, however as you state it will probably be a derivitive of a VW unit, which in my opinion ( Unbiased of course ) just isn't quite up there with the BMW units yet.
Greg
I must confess to not having driven the Cayenne, however as you state it will probably be a derivitive of a VW unit, which in my opinion ( Unbiased of course ) just isn't quite up there with the BMW units yet.
Greg
Eastern boy said:
Big difference to drive over 40d, which may seem difficult to imagine, but power and torque is just immense.
I must confess to not having driven the Cayenne, however as you state it will probably be a derivitive of a VW unit, which in my opinion ( Unbiased of course ) just isn't quite up there with the BMW units yet.
Greg
I tend to agree with you Greg. I must confess to not having driven the Cayenne, however as you state it will probably be a derivitive of a VW unit, which in my opinion ( Unbiased of course ) just isn't quite up there with the BMW units yet.
Greg
Out of curiosity, would a car with comfort access be less likely to be stolen via OBD-reprogrammed keys ?
Kananga said:
Eastern boy said:
Big difference to drive over 40d, which may seem difficult to imagine, but power and torque is just immense.
I must confess to not having driven the Cayenne, however as you state it will probably be a derivitive of a VW unit, which in my opinion ( Unbiased of course ) just isn't quite up there with the BMW units yet.
Greg
I tend to agree with you Greg. I must confess to not having driven the Cayenne, however as you state it will probably be a derivitive of a VW unit, which in my opinion ( Unbiased of course ) just isn't quite up there with the BMW units yet.
Greg
Out of curiosity, would a car with comfort access be less likely to be stolen via OBD-reprogrammed keys ?
Skrambles said:
Zod said:
My X5 50i had comfort access, as did my M5. Both were stolen that way, so no.
You going to chance getting another?I had one on demo for a few days and have to say they are quick (for a diesel bus!!). I have driven the 3.0l Cayenne Diesel and it feels very sluggish but haven't driven the new one.
I liked it so much I am going to order one for March to replace my current diesel car, they are by no means an M car as no 4x4 should be so in my eyes they should just badge it as an "M Sport" diesel at best, I will be ticking the de-badge option though!!!
I liked it so much I am going to order one for March to replace my current diesel car, they are by no means an M car as no 4x4 should be so in my eyes they should just badge it as an "M Sport" diesel at best, I will be ticking the de-badge option though!!!
HoHoHo said:
Zod said:
Think so. I'm going to write a very pointed letter to Mike Abbott when I do to say that if it happens again BMW will be very, very unhappy at what I will do.
And what might that be Zod?Zod said:
Must try the 50d. We have a 40d on free loan from BMW at the moment and, while impressive for a diesel, it's much slower than the 50i. Similar torque figures, but it's about 100bhp down. The 50d will be interesting to try, given it's only 27bhp down and some way up on torque.
I bought a 40d for my wife and I've been using it a lot while off work this summer. It's very quick and handles fairly well considering how big and heavy it is. I'd have gone for an X5M, but needed 7 seats. I'm sure the 50d will be amazingly quick, but will it offer any real economy advantage over a 50i? The diesels don't get near the published economy figures and the engines totally lack the soul of a v8.Gassing Station | M Power | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff