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Gentlemen start your Warp engines

Gentlemen start your Warp engines

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warp9

1,100 posts

103 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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To infinity and beyond......!

MartG

7,086 posts

110 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Make it so !

LordGrover

27,179 posts

118 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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link said:
White and his team are experimenting with a mini-version of a warp drive in their laboratory, using laser to try to warp space and time in miniature.
Can I have a job please, Mr White?

PeanutHead

7,820 posts

76 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Engage.

Guvernator

5,656 posts

71 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Hmm I thought the often sited consensus, even on this forum was that faster than light travel was impossible. Would any of the more knowledgeable physicists on here like to comment on this? Scientifically possible or a load of codswallop?
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LordGrover

27,179 posts

118 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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confused Did you not read the article or links?

Nuclearsquash

1,269 posts

168 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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You don't need to go faster than light, just bend space to make the effective distance travelable at normal speeds.

Guvernator

5,656 posts

71 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Yes I did read the article and to be honest the article is confusing in itself but then it's the Daily Mail so I shouldn't be surprised really.

The OP's topic heading, the term Warp and the article itself all reference FTL travel but then the actual scientist is talking about bending space which has nothing to do with going faster than light but more to do with circumventing it instead.

Krikkit

7,761 posts

87 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Forget the spurious and ludicrous article, the comments are priceless!

Guvernator

5,656 posts

71 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Krikkit said:
Forget the spurious and ludicrous article, the comments are priceless!
Indeed, with the primary school grasp of physics on display, some of those people should be contributing to the Science forum!

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

161 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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They say it is a ship. It isn't. It's an American football.

Simpo Two

65,544 posts

171 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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I always thought 'Warp 9' was 9x speed of light...

It must be an equivalent. IE I'm going to scrunch up this bit of space so much that I can get through it at sub light speed but to an outside observer it will SEEM to be 9c'




Who sends these outside observers anyway?!

Art0ir

8,400 posts

76 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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The Space.com article is a bit more.. readable

http://www.space.com/17628-warp-drive-possible-int...

tuffer

7,170 posts

173 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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So let me get this right, you float an American football in the middle of a Doughnut and jobs a good-un!!

plasticpig

10,082 posts

131 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Simpo Two said:
I always thought 'Warp 9' was 9x speed of light...

It must be an equivalent. IE I'm going to scrunch up this bit of space so much that I can get through it at sub light speed but to an outside observer it will SEEM to be 9c'




Who sends these outside observers anyway?!
Slightly faster than that otherwise Captain Kirk wouldn't have got to Alpha Centauri before the first series was over.

Simpo Two

65,544 posts

171 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Logathithmic perhaps then.

annodomini2

5,292 posts

157 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Still impractical, just less unrealistic.

The fundamental issue is the 2nd half of the equation, notably: "Expand space-time behind the ship".

This effectively requires manipulation of the (currently) highly theoretical dark energy, which will still aren't certain exists.

Whether it can be manipulated or not is another issue.

Guvernator

5,656 posts

71 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Guam said:
Thats the point of WARP in that context <warping space> smile
It was posted for a giggle, most folks got it, clearly not you. The Airplane on a conveyor thread should give you endless pleasure smile

A Car sized warp craft on a car forum why would that be pertinent smile
Oh I got the humor alright, just commenting on the mixed metaphors used in the article more than anything. smile

The idea of warp travel is very intriguing to me and indeed is essential for the long term survival of the human race as we need to get out of the solar system before we are obliterated by a lucky asteroid shot or a big solar flare or something. It's a pity that the article is a load of codswallop though, how exactly are they going to replicate manipulating space time in a lab then?

Oh and warp speed ala Star Trek is slightly more complicated than warp 9 = 9 times the speed of late as it's calculated on a geometric formula so each warp factor is many times the last. Warp 9 for example = about 1500 x the speed of light. Closet Trekkie nerdboxedin

Tim330

611 posts

118 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Guvernator said:
Guam said:
Thats the point of WARP in that context <warping space> smile
It was posted for a giggle, most folks got it, clearly not you. The Airplane on a conveyor thread should give you endless pleasure smile

A Car sized warp craft on a car forum why would that be pertinent smile
Oh I got the humor alright, just commenting on the mixed metaphors used in the article more than anything. smile

The idea of warp travel is very intriguing to me and indeed is essential for the long term survival of the human race as we need to get out of the solar system before we are obliterated by a lucky asteroid shot or a big solar flare or something. It's a pity that the article is a load of codswallop though, how exactly are they going to replicate manipulating space time in a lab then?

Oh and warp speed ala Star Trek is slightly more complicated than warp 9 = 9 times the speed of late as it's calculated on a geometric formula so each warp factor is many times the last. Warp 9 for example = about 1500 x the speed of light. Closet Trekkie nerdboxedin
It also changed over the different series

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Warp_factor

Gene Vincent

4,002 posts

64 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Guvernator said:
Hmm I thought the often sited consensus, even on this forum was that faster than light travel was impossible. Would any of the more knowledgeable physicists on here like to comment on this? Scientifically possible or a load of codswallop?
Codswallop.

Time travel is not going to be possible, it means depleting the energy quotient in the 'time' that you left and adding that energy to the 'time' you arrive at.

This destroys the Cosmos.

You see the amount of energy and its equivalent is the same this instant as it was 13bn years ago, it is exactly the same amount and has remained that amount and will remain that amount.

You and your space craft are energy or its equivalence, so jumping through time would mean that you'd have already be there to 'send back' an equal amount back in time to the time you left.

This is not possible.

Time travel is impossible.

NASA always needs funds, it's a huge and continually burgeoning body and these flights of fantasy just help the cause.