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MrBrightSi

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1,307 posts

53 months

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Recently been looking at building my own kit car.

There is a company down the road GBS who seem to provide quite a decent kit, i do like the whole front engine rwd set up.

However, i have a clio williams that is succumbing to rust and miss the good old days of RWD.

I'd love to keep the engine as it was quite a monster and with a little love would be giving out its factory power.

My main question is that in these rear engined/mid engined kits, will it accept other engines than the zetec?

Sat351

103 posts

50 months

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Sunday 23rd September 2012 quote quote all

RTR are well set up to do most jobs if it looks feasable,,

I did here they were working on Toyota engine fitment smile

MG CHRIS

3,976 posts

50 months

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Sunday 23rd September 2012 quote quote all
MrBrightSi said:
Recently been looking at building my own kit car.

There is a company down the road GBS who seem to provide quite a decent kit, i do like the whole front engine rwd set up.

However, i have a clio williams that is succumbing to rust and miss the good old days of RWD.

I'd love to keep the engine as it was quite a monster and with a little love would be giving out its factory power.

My main question is that in these rear engined/mid engined kits, will it accept other engines than the zetec?
There is a fiat uno turbo powered sonic similar to the rocket so possible to put a clio engine in them. Speak to rtr they build alot of different things excluding kit cars so i can't see it being a major problem.
I would get one if i wasn't building a exocet but would be powered by a mr2 turbo engine.

AdiT

618 posts

40 months

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Monday 24th September 2012 quote quote all
I think I saw a bellhousing to fit a Renault engine to Ford RWD g'box on the GBS stand at one of the shows recently; so you might be able to go down the front engine RWD route and stil use your Clio engine.

MrBrightSi

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Monday 24th September 2012 quote quote all
Ive seen the sonic with the uno, its for sale on here.

Talked with MEV today, they said its possible and if i gave them the engine they'd alter mountings to accept it.

Regarding the bellhousing. The guys there were very very straight talking and said that it'd eat more money than its worth, very understandable.

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JamesHayward

525 posts

47 months

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Thursday 27th September 2012 quote quote all
I think there is a a way to get the Clio Williams engine mated up to a RWD setup. A mate of mine had one in a Volvo 340 so it definitely can be done.

If you are going down the rocket route then it's a no brainer, the rocket uses a transverse setup.

AdiT

618 posts

40 months

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Thursday 27th September 2012 quote quote all
JamesHayward said:
I think there is a a way to get the Clio Williams engine mated up to a RWD setup. A mate of mine had one in a Volvo 340 so it definitely can be done.

If you are going down the rocket route then it's a no brainer, the rocket uses a transverse setup.
As the 340 had a Renault engine as standard, I'd guess it bolted streight up to the existing bellhousing. Unfortunatly the 340 bell housing fits direct to the prop' with the gearbox at the back axle.
It would be an interesting project using the 340 b/housing, ally prop and rear 'box... but the gear/diff ratios probably aren't suitable.

Furyblade_Lee

3,341 posts

107 months

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Friday 28th September 2012 quote quote all
It would be lovely to recycle you Williams engine bit I fear the expense you may need to go to to make it RWD would far outweigh the benefits of the 150bhp you will get. A Williams must be worth a bit of money even a rusty one surely?

But they got that engine to work in the back of Renault Sport Spyder successfully , so I suggest financially you might be better to stick it in the back of something rather than the front!

Personally though I would sell the Willy and use the cash towards something with a little more poke, useable Clio 172's are available for £1,500 if you want to keep it Renault.



Paul Drawmer

2,907 posts

150 months

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It is always easier and cheaper in the long run to get a tried and tested car/engine combination.

The first person to put a 'different' engine into a kit has always got a fair amount of extra work to do. It isn't really a good idea if it's your first kit.

The Black Flash

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81 months

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Friday 28th September 2012 quote quote all
Paul Drawmer said:
It is always easier and cheaper in the long run to get a tried and tested car/engine combination.

The first person to put a 'different' engine into a kit has always got a fair amount of extra work to do. It isn't really a good idea if it's your first kit.
Oh, st. Now they tell me.

MrBrightSi

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Friday 28th September 2012 quote quote all
Theblackflash I love the look of that v6 upfront.

I know that im going to have to go mid engined and stick transverse. There are rwd renault options but a little too crazy and ott for what i want. Sticking with a transverse layout i was just wondering how easy it is to repurpose.

JamesHayward

525 posts

47 months

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AdiT said:
As the 340 had a Renault engine as standard, I'd guess it bolted streight up to the existing bellhousing. Unfortunatly the 340 bell housing fits direct to the prop' with the gearbox at the back axle.
It would be an interesting project using the 340 b/housing, ally prop and rear 'box... but the gear/diff ratios probably aren't suitable.
You are correct. I saw the chap on Saturday and he was saying that the Volvo has a transaxle. Therefore probably wouldn't work in a kit car.

AdiT

618 posts

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JamesHayward said:
You are correct. I saw the chap on Saturday and he was saying that the Volvo has a transaxle. Therefore probably wouldn't work in a kit car.
I'm pretty sure it would work and give very nice weight distribution. It's just whether the gear ratios would be suitable? I suspect it was geared in the Volvo to run out of revs about the 95mph mark with the ohv renault.


Hmmm... maybe not such a problem afterall... Just had a look and the 5th gear was 0.83:1 and a 3.82:1 diff (4sp had a 3.64:1 diff)
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