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mrzigazaga

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11,127 posts

51 months

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Hi Peeps...I may of found a low mileaged V6 engine to go into delilah...I can then send the original off for rebuilding and then sell the low mileage motor later on...The future looks whiney!!..smile

wooly350i

1,969 posts

94 months

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You'd better feed her anti rejection drugs !

mrzigazaga

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11,127 posts

51 months

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wooly350i said:
You'd better feed her anti rejection drugs !
Dont worry mate i always carry a persuedertron..."A fking big hammer"

maston

783 posts

38 months

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Mark,

Why not go for a V8, often see them on fleabay staring from £150 !


MARKS6900

232 posts

88 months

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Stick this baby in her.
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400SE Dave

936 posts

57 months

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maston said:
Mark,

Why not go for a V8, often see them on fleabay staring from £150 !
A V8 probably wouldn't fit without moving bits of the chassis about

mrzigazaga

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MARKS6900 said:
Stick this baby in her.
Yeah...yeah...yeah...nuts..."I wish"...As said a V8 wont fit, Well an RV8 wont but a ford 302 will but in honesty once the engine is rebuilt and the supercharger is fitted then i should have a wedge thats running over 300bhp... smile

RCK974X

1,522 posts

35 months

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Drool...Drool some more......

It's a MASSIVE shame that the RV8 won't go in the early chassis (not without a lot of mucking about anyway) and I **SO** want to go for a V8....

But, as I said in other threads, I have this Holden (=Buick) 3.8 V6 and T5 box sat on my garage floor.... and here in NZ and Aus they do a factory supercharged 3.8 option, which I think will even fit under the bonnet.....

Anyway, best of luck with heart transplant, Zig....

MARKS6900

232 posts

88 months

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I know it would not fit but what about twin turbo,s.

Flares&Chestwig

586 posts

94 months

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mrzigazaga said:
Yeah...yeah...yeah...nuts..."I wish"...As said a V8 wont fit, Well an RV8 wont but a ford 302 will but in honesty once the engine is rebuilt and the supercharger is fitted then i should have a wedge thats running over 300bhp... smile
Hope your not expecting 300 BHP from a V6 ?

Edited by Flares&Chestwig on Friday 28th September 21:51

Campbell

2,334 posts

169 months

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Hi Ziga ths sounds like a good idea, fitting a good temp engine while you have your race 6 pot monster built up.
When do you think you will have the motor ready for the swap, at least it keeps your stead going.

Cambelt

mrzigazaga

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[quote=Flares&Chestwig]

Hope your not expecting 300 BHP from a V6 ?
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Well im not going to get too excited until its rebuilt but the guy that will be rebuilding it is John toovey and he is known for his work on V6 cologne's...Its being built to race specification and should be pushing over 200bhp....Then when the supercharger is fitted it should be pushing up to or over 300bhp..Then with a squirt of NOS..Well enough said...Just have to wait and see..Should be ready for next years BBWF...Ziga

Brap_Brap

731 posts

95 months

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G'luck Zig.

Grady

709 posts

146 months

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What are are planning on doing for heads? Grady

mrzigazaga

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Grady said:
What are are planning on doing for heads? Grady
Hi Mate...Not too sure yet but unleaded conversion is a must..Some port matching and polishing possibly big valves If they are needed...The supercharger kit is set up for stock parts but i will be talking to Mr toovey nearer the time to see if there is anything that would benefit the enigine and work in harmony with the blower..A blower profiled cam is being added to the list especially if the old one is wearing and will need changing anyway..The main thing will be making sure the engine is strong enough to cope with the extra horses..Cheers..Ziga

mk2 24v

292 posts

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mrzigazaga said:
Well im not going to get too excited until its rebuilt but the guy that will be rebuilding it is John toovey and he is known for his work on V6 cologne's...Its being built to race specification and should be pushing over 200bhp....Then when the supercharger is fitted it should be pushing up to or over 300bhp..Then with a squirt of NOS..Well enough said...Just have to wait and see..Should be ready for next years BBWF...Ziga
i doubt with the standard head castings you'll get that much Zig rolleyes just over 200 with the supercharger maybe, but the heads on the ole colognes give up good and proper with boost and crack due to thin wall castings eek

i'd expect around 200 S/C and be pleases with the smooth torque range that it'll have biggrin

adam quantrill

7,657 posts

128 months

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Zig - when you get the new lump - before you send the old one off you can have a tinker with fitting the supercharger brackets on and see how it will all go together, and whether any bits are missing or need tweaking to make it fit together.

taz turbo

535 posts

136 months

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mk2 24v said:
i doubt with the standard head castings you'll get that much Zig rolleyes just over 200 with the supercharger maybe, but the heads on the ole colognes give up good and proper with boost and crack due to thin wall castings eek

i'd expect around 200 S/C and be pleases with the smooth torque range that it'll have biggrin
Toovey engines can produce in excess of 200Hp normally aspirated, however, this would be with a tricky cam that would be totally unsuitable for forced induction, but with a cam suitable for boost and a supercharger......

When running forced induction you have to ask yourself what power you want then work out the highest CR you can run, so to maintain drive-ability. Little point having 400Hp with so low CR drive-ability on the roads would be bad.

BBWF 2012 the highest rolling road figure of the day was 275.9Hp..............From a 2.8 V6 with standard CR.

This engine (turbocharged) has been producing well in excess of 200Hp for the last 30 years without any head troubles, and with standard CR remains as drivable as any 2.8 when off boost.

Obviously it's far from the best engine in the world, but Zig wants to stick with a V6, I for one admire his plans, as its in the spirit of TVR and how the factory would likely of done things, and hope he's happy with the results.

Chris.

mrzigazaga

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NTEL said:
Zig, I am really sorry to read about your engine woes. You have done so much with that car, it's such a shame. Can I suggest you speak with the guy who looked after my Cologne 2.9 12v V6 race engine? He is an expert (yes, he really is) with Ford V6's, his name is John Toovey and is based in Cannock. He will discuss your options and offer prices accordingly. His prices will be no where near what you have been quoted. The biggest bill I've had off him was less than half you have been quoted and that included 6 forged pistons, big valve conversion, decked heads and block, scary cam and all new bearings as well as a host of other stuff. That engine ran 250bhp at 7500rpm! It's well worth a chat with him before you make your mind up. He may even have a built engine just sat on the shelf.
Thanks chris..Optimism is a good thing...As you can see by Mr Chant's post its not impossible to get over 200bhp out of a V6..The guy that owned the kit before me sent me one of his friend's email addresses and i have conversed with him over quite a few issues regarding the supercharger kit..His sierra is pushing 223bhp on stock parts and thats with a big 4 door metal shell to lug about...Next year will be the telling factor...cheers...Ziga

Edited by mrzigazaga on Sunday 30th September 20:02

taz turbo

535 posts

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Or run a bit more boost for intresing results Click

575Hp at 1.6 Bar boost = 221Hp at atmospheric, very good with a cam suitable for a boosted application.

I would guess unsuitable for a road application due to a likely low CR, great when its on boost but gutless when not.

Have you found out the maximum speed, volume, pressure output spec. of your blower yet? From there you can calculate what you can expect.

Chris.

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