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Dilligaf10

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2,233 posts

93 months

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Sunday 30th September 2012 quote quote all
Had a guided tour of an 85' Princess Yacht yesterday, first time I have been on a real luxury boat.

Absolutely stunning, could not believe how beautiful it was, are they the real top of the range yacht or are their better ones out there?

mickrick

2,899 posts

56 months

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Sunday 30th September 2012 quote quote all
You where blinded by the bling and soft furnishings no doubt.
It's what's below the veneer that counts.

Dilligaf10

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2,233 posts

93 months

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Sunday 30th September 2012 quote quote all
Complete novice with these boat thingies. Took a client down so he could view it and discuss options.

Simpo Two

59,236 posts

148 months

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Sunday 30th September 2012 quote quote all
mickrick said:
You where blinded by the bling and soft furnishings no doubt.
It's what's below the veneer that counts.
Yes - open the floor hatch and there will be a little mickrick-type-fellow smiling at you and waving a spanner smile

Fishtigua

5,683 posts

78 months

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Sunday 30th September 2012 quote quote all
Out of all the Sunseeker/Fairline/Sealine type boats, Princess is probably the best.

They're still all st though.

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Boatbuoy

1,125 posts

45 months

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Sunday 30th September 2012 quote quote all
I probably shouldn't get involved in this!

jinkster

1,082 posts

39 months

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Sunday 30th September 2012 quote quote all
I guess you went to the boat show!

Depends on price really the real luxury stuff is http://www.camperandnicholsons.com/luxury-yachts-f...

Boatbuoy

1,125 posts

45 months

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Sunday 30th September 2012 quote quote all
I have an ambition to one day do a McLaren F1/Gordon Murray-esk boat project. Clean sheet of paper and blank cheque required!

Dreams eh?

noneedtolift

647 posts

106 months

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Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Boatbuoy said:
I have an ambition to one day do a McLaren F1/Gordon Murray-esk boat project. Clean sheet of paper and blank cheque required!

Dreams eh?
Share that dream. Done the car bit - boat next. Fear my blank cheque would most definately bounce though....

noneedtolift

647 posts

106 months

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Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Fishtigua said:
Out of all the Sunseeker/Fairline/Sealine type boats, Princess is probably the best.

They're still all st though.
This.

Boatbuoy

1,125 posts

45 months

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Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
noneedtolift said:
Boatbuoy said:
I have an ambition to one day do a McLaren F1/Gordon Murray-esk boat project. Clean sheet of paper and blank cheque required!

Dreams eh?
Share that dream. Done the car bit - boat next. Fear my blank cheque would most definately bounce though....
I've spent too much time sketching and planning this particular dream!

Fishtigua

5,683 posts

78 months

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Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Why would you want a 'Plastic Fantastic' when you could have one of these? Okay, a little more expensive but with a long range and quality to last a lifetime.

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/moonen-yacht/742...

Benjaminpalma

1,107 posts

65 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
Our firm, matrixLloyd, helps people to buy large yachts – in particular novice buyers.

We act for the buyer, as opposed to a yacht broker or yard rep, who acts for the seller. We want happy ongoing owners rather than just a sale, and don’t work on a commission-basis.

Princess Yachts’ build quality is generally better than most, but individual craftsmen and engineers can all have bad days, and, as every boat is different, there is often a certain amount of wheel reinvention which goes into each build.

Design-wise, Princesses are on the conservative side compared to Sunseekers or Italian boats.

My advice would always be to go for a used boat, not new – they depreciate like crazy and technical issues and flaws take a lot longer to be ironed-out than with a new supercar. There are some bargains to be had right now, too.

Most importantly, your client needs to think about whether he is happy to employ crew, or whether he wants to drive it himself. At this size you're almost certainly looking at employing crew.

Lots to think about, but don’t lose sight of the fact that nothing else offers so much fun and freedom.

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Dilligaf10

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2,233 posts

93 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
Thanks for t,he answers guys, just genuinely interested as too where they stood in the rankings.

The people I took to see it are buying as a replacement as their current one is a bit cramped! The yacht will be crewed and I'm really hoping for an invite to sail on her which given my clients previous history is entirely likely, the sooner the better. She will be moored at the edge of Eastern Europe so that will be another area to tick off the list.

They are not the sort of people to buy secondhand either!

Benjaminpalma

1,107 posts

65 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
Dilligaf10 said:
Thanks for t,he answers guys, just genuinely interested as too where they stood in the rankings.

The people I took to see it are buying as a replacement as their current one is a bit cramped! The yacht will be crewed and I'm really hoping for an invite to sail on her which given my clients previous history is entirely likely, the sooner the better. She will be moored at the edge of Eastern Europe so that will be another area to tick off the list.

They are not the sort of people to buy secondhand either!
There are no rankings - it's just a question of what your client's wants and needs are. Build quality only drops off significantly with boats made in the Far East. But be careful, as clever branding exercises can disguise a boat's true build pedigree.

Do they have experience of employing crew already? Good crew make all the difference. Some are passionate and loyal, others (many, in my experience) resent their employer's wealth, take kickbacks and don't bother with essential maintenance - especially on 'small' boats like this without dedicated engineering crew.

Nothing wrong with buying new, of course, but the devil is in the detail as far as the build contract and warranty is concerned. Buy through a broker and your client may pay significantly over the odds. Chose a financially weak yard or accept flawed build guarantees and your client could lose very large sums of money.



jenkotvr

634 posts

57 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
Fishtigua said:
Why would you want a 'Plastic Fantastic' when you could have one of these? Okay, a little more expensive but with a long range and quality to last a lifetime.

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/moonen-yacht/742...
Stunning!

jackthelad1984

599 posts

64 months

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Saturday 6th October 2012 quote quote all
I spent just over 2 years working for princess, in particular 12 months on the v85 builds,if i could afford such a boat i doubt id buy one of these, id much rather be spending my money on something with a metal hull rather than a fibreglass gin palace!

mickrick

2,899 posts

56 months

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Saturday 6th October 2012 quote quote all
^ Wot he said. Looking around one at the boat show isn't the same as being at sea in one ! Boy do they creak in anything over a 5 !
I run a Tiawanese plastic Gin palace, and it's a lot sturdier built than any of the U.K. or Italian production boats, but when it gets to a 6 I then go on to the broken crystal scale smile

Better something smaller, better built, and displacement. If you want to go fast, buy a Leer Jet.
Personaly I prefer boats with a stick and flappy things.

juan king

978 posts

72 months

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Saturday 6th October 2012 quote quote all
jenkotvr said:
Fishtigua said:
Why would you want a 'Plastic Fantastic' when you could have one of these? Okay, a little more expensive but with a long range and quality to last a lifetime.

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/moonen-yacht/742...
Stunning!
This might be a really stupid question, but how do you get the rib down?

del 203

12,727 posts

132 months

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Saturday 6th October 2012 quote quote all
juan king said:
This might be a really stupid question, but how do you get the rib down?
Unstrap it & put your right foot down biggrin



HTH




Look on the port side wink

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