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Bitofbully

394 posts

24 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
He was obviously a bit eccentric and I'm not surprised at the allegations... however, remember back to the Dave Jones case.

An innocent football manager had his life and career devastated for a couple of years whilst he worked to clear his name.

It's this case alone that makes me very wary of condemning Savile until there's some concrete proof.

decadence

502 posts

43 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
Bitofbully said:
He was obviously a bit eccentric and I'm not surprised at the allegations... however, remember back to the Dave Jones case.

An innocent football manager had his life and career devastated for a couple of years whilst he worked to clear his name.

It's this case alone that makes me very wary of condemning Savile until there's some concrete proof.
Something tells me It won't affect his future TV work.......

streaky

19,311 posts

134 months

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Monday 8th October 2012 quote quote all
decadence said:
Bitofbully said:
He was obviously a bit eccentric and I'm not surprised at the allegations... however, remember back to the Dave Jones case.

An innocent football manager had his life and career devastated for a couple of years whilst he worked to clear his name.

It's this case alone that makes me very wary of condemning Savile until there's some concrete proof.
Something tells me It won't affect his future TV work.......
It might reduce the number of Top of the Pops the BBC is prepared to retransmit ... from which his estate probably receives royalties.

Streaky

daz3210

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5,000 posts

125 months

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Monday 8th October 2012 quote quote all
streaky said:
It might reduce the number of Top of the Pops the BBC is prepared to retransmit ... from which his estate probably receives royalties.

Streaky
Where do the royalties go anyway? Charidee?

Breadvan72

18,976 posts

48 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
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The Surveyor

2,427 posts

122 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
decadence said:
I think in these cases even if the girls were 16 or over its still pretty gross scenario.
I mean by this that take Rotherham. If men give 15 year old girl from rough background free booze then abuse her sexually, its not suddenly OK cause they are over 16.

So in Jimmys case if this is at all true, even if they were 16 or over, its still wrong based on his profession. You cant on the one hand be a 40-50 year old doing a childrens show then after hours having sex with 16 year olds let alone 13 year olds....age here like with that teacher is a massive angle yes, but not just a case of "well if she was 16 which she nearly was then this teacher would of been doing nothing wrong.." YES HE WOULD!

Same with Jimmy...underage or not, a 40 year old childrens entertainer should not of been getting jiggy with any young girls full stop....
Totally agree, but put a different slant on it... a huge megga star / radio dj / Rolling Stones guitarist / Motley Crew drummer / film star / film director etc etc ... who gets groupies & wana be's throwing them selves at you all day and every night whilst stoned and drunk up to the eyeballs isn't always going to ask for proof of age are they? Sex and Drugs and Rock'n'roll has always been associated with famous people. Nothing can defend any older person taking advantage of his or her fame, but sometimes it isn't as clear cut as the media would have us believe.

Breadvan72

18,976 posts

48 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
I query whether pursuing 120 lines of enquiry about a dead man is a sound use of police resources. Clearly any criminal cover up would warrant investigation, but the alleged offences themselves are no longer justiciable in a criminal court.

simoid

12,710 posts

43 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
Why has it just been reported on BBC News at 6, that some boy from the Met he was "a predatory sexual offender who abused girls on a national scale" and has "perpetrated 4 decades of abuse"... are we not still talking 'allegedly' and all that, or does that not matter since he's dead?

XCP

12,216 posts

113 months

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No it doesn't matter.
You can say what you like about dead people.

Breadvan72

18,976 posts

48 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
Unless they are Count Dracula.

otolith

25,567 posts

89 months

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Or unless what you say is sufficiently offensive to get you sent down for 12 weeks.

ED209

3,562 posts

129 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
This pic was taken in 1980 in the car park of my local nick. If only those coppers knew!



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decadence

502 posts

43 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
simoid said:
Why has it just been reported on BBC News at 6, that some boy from the Met he was "a predatory sexual offender who abused girls on a national scale" and has "perpetrated 4 decades of abuse"... are we not still talking 'allegedly' and all that, or does that not matter since he's dead?
I think its becoming pretty apparent now that he was up to no good with young children. Question now is "who else"..........

theironduke

6,995 posts

73 months

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Breadvan72 said:
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Am I bad person for sniggering at that....

decadence

502 posts

43 months

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theironduke said:
Breadvan72 said:
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Am I bad person for sniggering at that....
I've printed it onto a t shirt!! I'm going to hell then!!

Oakey

16,460 posts

101 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
The news were saying the first allegation dated back to 1959. Does this mean the allegation was made in 1959 or this is when he supposedly did it?

Fartomatic5000

416 posts

40 months

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ED209 said:
This pic was taken in 1980 in the car park of my local nick. If only those coppers knew!



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They probably did....

simoid

12,710 posts

43 months

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decadence said:
I've printed it onto a t shirt!! I'm going to hell then!!
Potentially 12 weeks in prison...

/currentPHjoke

daz3210

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5,000 posts

125 months

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Wednesday 10th October 2012 quote quote all
I'm pretty perturbed by what I have heard today.

Esther Rantzen has been on Radio today saying she knew of the abuse years ago. If that is the case, why as a champion of childline has she been mute on the matter?


Edited by daz3210 on Wednesday 10th October 09:52

y2blade

54,388 posts

100 months

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daz3210 said:
I'm pretty perturbed by what I have herd today.

Esther Rantzen has been on Radio today saying she knew of the abuse years ago. If that is the case, why as a champion of childline has she been mute on the matter?
Because she's a **** perhaps?
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