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Friday 5th October 2012

Ringside Seat: time for positive thinking

Some good news from the 'ring



Coverage of the Nurburgring’s financial plight seems to be universally dismal these days. You can read all kinds of bad news all over the internet and even in the occasional daily newspaper, but a lot of this is just regurgitated pessimism. And it doesn’t taste any better this month than it did last month.

Plenty busy out where it counts...
Plenty busy out where it counts...
So let me tell you what’s actually happening here at the ’ring, as seen from my position as a sales-bloke on the shopfloor of our little rental car company.

I’ve been flat-out throughout August and September, both of which were record-breaking months for customers served, laps driven and turnover generated.

Year-on-year the public driving sessions have been increasing in popularity for nearly a decade before I first moved here in 2007. Anybody trying to drive more than a couple of laps on a Sunday this year will attest to that.

It’s the same story at hotels and restaurants throughout the area. Every week there are more tables and beds shoe-horned into the same size rooms. The ED gas station on Dottinger Hohe sells more Super Plus from its eight pumps than some of the biggest 24 and 32-pump stations on the autobahns.

Attendance staggering in quality and quantity
Attendance staggering in quality and quantity
The public sessions are big business; in a couple of weeks the track will open for four consecutive days of public opening and many companies around here will make as much in one weekend as a whole regular month.

And if the over-crowded tourist sessions don’t float your boat, the track day scene here has been booming too. For me, this culminated in the two day Nurburgring Evo event by Gran Turismo Events where over a 100 participants forked out over €2,000 each for two days of high-living in the four-star hotel complex and out driving on the Nordscheife. McLarens, Paganis and Bugattis were all in attendance, to the point where an M3, GTR or 911 GT3 looked like a ‘cheap’ entry. Tomorrow the first attendees will arrive for the sixth UK-operated Destination Nurburgring track day. To give you an idea of how popular a regularly-priced £500 event is, this was booked out before summer even began...

Proper cars, being used properly - hurrah!
Proper cars, being used properly - hurrah!
And it’s good news on the racing too, as the 2013 24-hour races have been confirmed for May 17-20 next year. Thanks to the Bank Holiday weekend here, that’s a Friday to Monday event. Other major ADAC events are expected to follow soon (Classic Eifelrennen, Truck GP, etc...).

So while the deserted museum, lonely arena and abandoned rollercoaster are a nearly-half-billion euro disaster, the racetrack itself is still growing every month. It’s for that reason that I just can’t or won’t believe that the bit we love is under any real threat of failure. As the politicians try to pin the blame on each other, and the Ring Werk complex struggles to open each day, don’t think for a moment that you can’t come and enjoy the real Nurburgring still.

Because you can. Only when the public stop enjoying the ’ring and spending money here will this place be in serious and imminent danger. Don’t panic, keep lapping.

Photos by www.jamesholm.se

Dale Lomas
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P4ROT

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Nice to hear something positive for a change about our car Mecca....

Nurburgsingh

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The Eifelrennen website is currently showing Jun 14-16 as the 2013 date...

fingers cross cos I cant feckin wait!!

Mermaid

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The 'Ring is well, the owners not so.

zebedee

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Mermaid said:
The 'Ring is well, the owners not so.
But surely if the owners pull the plug and no-one steps in, it will be tough luck for the hotels and businesses like this guy.

A bit like saying everyone loves Alton Towers and the hotels are full, but if the owners decided to close it down or turn it into a shopping mall (or were forced to because they simply couldn't afford to continue) then it doesn't matter how many people would be willing to go, it won't be there anymore.

At least if things are strong on the interest and receipts front, the chances are someone will step in and buy it as a going concern, it is just a question of being able to afford what must be a massive price in the first instance and would they also have to take on the debts etc etc.

Fingers crossed.

Edited by zebedee on Friday 5th October 11:37

bicycleshorts

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Because you can. Only when the public stop enjoying the ’ring and spending money here will this place be in serious and imminent danger. Don’t panic, keep lapping.
Don't see that ever happening. Already planning next years trip! smile
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Carnnoisseur

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P4ROT said:
Nice to hear something positive for a change about our car Mecca....
This.......

CocoUK

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A big thumbs up for the article, great to read that you have been flat-out in the last couple of months.

My most recent trip to the Ring coincided with the Renault World Series GP circuit event, probably one of the only occasions where the Ring Werk actually had a number of visitors...

nightSpirit

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I'd describe this record breaking attendance as 'knee jerk' to the potential doom and gloom of 2013 being even less tourist days that are viable for those of us who travel from further afield.

2013 tourist calender will be interesting to me (after all that's most of us care about) as 2012 was poor all in all. If the full day sessions become fewer in number and therefore the visitor number increase on the available dates, foreign visitors (the ones who spend most of the money) will stop coming if the chances of getting in decent laps drops.

Mr.Jimbo

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zebedee said:
But surely if the owners pull the plug and no-one steps in, it will be tough luck for the hotels and businesses like this guy.

A bit like saying everyone loves Alton Towers and the hotels are full, but if the owners decided to close it down or turn it into a shopping mall (or were forced to because they simply couldn't afford to continue) then it doesn't matter how many people would be willing to go, it won't be there anymore.

At least if things are strong on the interest and receipts front, the chances are someone will step in and buy it as a going concern, it is just a question of being able to afford what must be a massive price in the first instance and would they also have to take on the debts etc etc.

Fingers crossed.

Edited by zebedee on Friday 5th October 11:37
Its not quite like that, the track is owned by a slightly different entity to the ring werk bits (museum, coaster etc) and therefore could continue if the latter crumbles and shuts (its the trackside entity that is in trouble, not the track itself)

There was a press release a few weeks back where the track owners distanced themselves from the trackside attractions owners

PascalBuyens

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bicycleshorts said:
article said:
Because you can. Only when the public stop enjoying the ’ring and spending money here will this place be in serious and imminent danger. Don’t panic, keep lapping.
Don't see that ever happening. Already planning next Friday's trip! smile
Corrected wink

Martian O

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I've been to the 'ring 7 times so far this year and it is always busy, apart from the rain/hail/snow weekends in February and April! smile I'm there again next weekend and I know it's going to be busy, there's always a great atmosphere there and I am 99.9999% sure it will stay that way for the future. Just don't believe the scaremongering email RSR sent out last month trying to drum up business! frown


RichardR

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When we went to have a look around the Ring Werk on the last 'ring trip it was a veritable ghost town. I didn't know about the rollercoaster debacle but that just seems to sum up the whole fiasco!

Hope the white elephant that is the Ring Werk can be put to sleep and the Nordschleife can be left to continue unburdened... scratchchin

zebedee

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Mr.Jimbo said:
Its not quite like that, the track is owned by a slightly different entity to the ring werk bits (museum, coaster etc) and therefore could continue if the latter crumbles and shuts (its the trackside entity that is in trouble, not the track itself)

There was a press release a few weeks back where the track owners distanced themselves from the trackside attractions owners
Excellent, so all the pessimistic stuff is totally irrelevant then? A bit like saying that Alton Towers wouldn't close if a cafe just outside the gates did?

tommy vercetti

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Carnnoisseur said:
P4ROT said:
Nice to hear something positive for a change about our car Mecca....
This.......
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woody155

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Martian O said:
I've been to the 'ring 7 times so far this year and it is always busy, apart from the rain/hail/snow weekends in February and April! smile I'm there again next weekend and I know it's going to be busy, there's always a great atmosphere there and I am 99.9999% sure it will stay that way for the future. Just don't believe the scaremongering email RSR sent out last month trying to drum up business! frown
what did the email say?

Martian O

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woody155 said:
Martian O said:
I've been to the 'ring 7 times so far this year and it is always busy, apart from the rain/hail/snow weekends in February and April! smile I'm there again next weekend and I know it's going to be busy, there's always a great atmosphere there and I am 99.9999% sure it will stay that way for the future. Just don't believe the scaremongering email RSR sent out last month trying to drum up business! frown
what did the email say?
Something along the lines of "uncertain future for the 'ring, so get in while you can and hire one of our cars".

xxxscimitarxxx

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investor borrowing leveraged up to the hilt...but a planned disaster survival scenario providing money in the bank for what ever object that they were connected with.

whoever was running the investment programme was a recipient of it....win win even if it loses....so the more money spent on stupid object....the more it was guaranteed to fail....and the more money they were guaranteed to get

varsas

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Great news.

sublow

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RichardR said:
When we went to have a look around the Ring Werk on the last 'ring trip it was a veritable ghost town.
At least it was open when you went. They close it during the week at the moment. We had to make do with the tour (which was OK) and a walk round the shop.

Dave Hedgehog

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wish i had the skill, balls and money to drive the ring
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