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topsparks

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1,176 posts

131 months

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After a long fight with neighbours and council we've just been granted planning permission for a replacement house. We are in shock!!

It has been a very stressful and expensive journey to get this far before we even lay a brick. No wonder the construction industry is on it's knees in this country.

Wetwipe

2,992 posts

97 months

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Many congratulations! You must feel as if you've won the lottery!

Building the place will seem easy in comparison I expect!

topsparks

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Wetwipe said:
Many congratulations! You must feel as if you've won the lottery!

Building the place will seem easy in comparison I expect!
You've got it in one. We bought our house nearly 6 years ago that looked nice from the outside but peel the top layer away and all the problems are revealed.

Unbeknown to us we moved into a "Retirement Village" as we call it, with us being the newcomers and wanting change we have been treated like lepers.



Roy E6

991 posts

116 months

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Hmmm.....so the extreme shed build is actually temporary living quarters for during the build. smile

V8RX7

9,253 posts

147 months

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Took me 4 years and 2 appeals and I didn't have a single complaint from the neighbours - in fact I got them to write letters of support !

Just a stupid planning officer - or to give her a correct title "Anti building officer"

The shell is now up and we still haven't had a complaint in fact it's rare not to get people stopping and commenting on how nice it looks on a daily basis.
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blueg33

13,261 posts

108 months

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Made me think of the very first planning committee I attended in the Cotswolds (I had a scheme for 5 houses being considered)

As each new build application came up, officer recommended refusal and refusal was rubber stamped
When mine came up recommended for approval a committee member stood up and said "I can't believe that our officers have let us down AGAIN by recommending a development for approval! I move that it be refused"
30 seconds later a show of hands meant my application was refused

Cost to my company circa £20k in architects and lawyers fees to get to that stage.

Won at appeal - The inspector stated that there were no grounds whatsoever for refusal.

Well done op. Planning is a trial. I am just about to travel to Bolton to thump a planning officer - 10% renewables my arse!


mx5cl

77 posts

23 months

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blueg33 said:
I am just about to travel to Bolton to thump a planning officer - 10% renewables my arse!
The London Borough of Merton have a lot to answer for in that regard!!!

topsparks

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1,176 posts

131 months

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We've got permission on the 2nd planning application. The first was going to be refused if we didn't change the design so we withdrew the application to change the design etc and were going to resubmit but the day we withdrew our application someone was given the nod and applied to English Heritage to get our house listed. We went through all the process of English Heritage and low and behold they found our house not suitable to be listed. Anyway the rest is history.

blueg33

13,261 posts

108 months

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topsparks said:
We've got permission on the 2nd planning application. The first was going to be refused if we didn't change the design so we withdrew the application to change the design etc and were going to resubmit but the day we withdrew our application someone was given the nod and applied to English Heritage to get our house listed. We went through all the process of English Heritage and low and behold they found our house not suitable to be listed. Anyway the rest is history.
The application for listed status is a common trick, along with blanket TPO and "Local" listing.

Well done, perseverance pays

topsparks

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blueg33 said:
The application for listed status is a common trick, along with blanket TPO and "Local" listing.

Well done, perseverance pays
Thanks, it wasn't an option to give up especially with my amount I paid my architect.

mondeoman

7,738 posts

150 months

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How on earth have we gotten to the position where unelected nobodies can tell us what we can and cant build on our own property??

Trying to get your house listed FFS??? Who the fk do they think they are???

V8RX7

9,253 posts

147 months

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blueg33 said:
The application for listed status is a common trick, along with blanket TPO
I enquired about general TPOs in the area before I bought my current plot that was covered in large trees.

I bought it on Friday then cut them all down on the Sunday morning.

I'm not talking about ancient oaks but with planners you never know.

blueg33

13,261 posts

108 months

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V8RX7 said:
I enquired about general TPOs in the area before I bought my current plot that was covered in large trees.

I bought it on Friday then cut them all down on the Sunday morning.

I'm not talking about ancient oaks but with planners you never know.
As a developer I have done the same on a number of occasions. In an couple of cases the locak residents got a bit angry and the tree surgeons had the Councillor pulling the ladder away from under him whilst he was working with a chain saw! (The trees were only fruit trees, and self seeded sycamore weeds)

Tress are a touchy subject

VEX

2,577 posts

130 months

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Congrat's.

Shouldn't have any supply issues either looking at your profile!

Lol.

V.


topsparks

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1,176 posts

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VEX said:
Congrat's.

Shouldn't have any supply issues either looking at your profile!

Lol.

V.

Well spotted.

topsparks

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mondeoman said:
How on earth have we gotten to the position where unelected nobodies can tell us what we can and cant build on our own property??

Trying to get your house listed FFS??? Who the fk do they think they are???
That was a nutter neighbour who thinks he runs the council.

volks al

4,053 posts

98 months

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Nice one James, that underground carport will look mint wink

bennyboydurham

1,399 posts

58 months

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We were given permission on the first try, with not a peep from the council about the design or the size. After the 'oh this will take you years' horror stories we'd heard from every quarter we've if anything been caught a bit unprepared as we never figured it would go straight through and now we're flapping about trying to organise everything.

I would add that we had engaged an incredibly smart planning consultant who spent 10 very expensive months on the application beforehand....

mph1977

7,260 posts

52 months

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in some places the problem will be with planning dept staff, but often becasue the message coming down from the elected councillors and the great and good is to limit development unless it gets the approval of the ' great and good ' - basically people who still think they are feudal barons

in other places it;s nimby-ism pure and simple , the listing attempts, the dubious objections the random TPOs on 'non worthy ' trees ...

topsparks

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mph1977 said:
in some places the problem will be with planning dept staff, but often becasue the message coming down from the elected councillors and the great and good is to limit development unless it gets the approval of the ' great and good ' - basically people who still think they are feudal barons

in other places it;s nimby-ism pure and simple , the listing attempts, the dubious objections the random TPOs on 'non worthy ' trees ...
I think NIMBYISM needs to be in caps as that is the main reason why our neighbours' complained and probably 99% of objections from neighbours.

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