israel at it again .....

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discusdave

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Sprouts

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Thursday 25th October 2012
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I'm ashamed to live here to be honest. It sickens me.

kuzushi

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143 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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discusdave said:
Could there not be a justifiable self-defence angle here?
Hamas keep lobbing missiles at Israel. The article says that the Sudan "is used as an arms smuggling route to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip via neighboring Egypt". How would other countries react if they were constantly on the receiving end of missile attacks from one of their neighbours?

tuffer

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268 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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I wonder what route they took to get there? Saw some previous rumuors that KSA would allow safe passage to Israeli jets to bomb Iran.

Puggit

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Thursday 25th October 2012
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tuffer said:
I wonder what route they took to get there? Saw some previous rumuors that KSA would allow safe passage to Israeli jets to bomb Iran.
I suspect low of the Sinai peninsular?

discusdave

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Thursday 25th October 2012
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THIS is a state sponsored terrorist act!

pure and simple.


Regiment

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160 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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kuzushi said:
Could there not be a justifiable self-defence angle here?
Hamas keep lobbing missiles at Israel. The article says that the Sudan "is used as an arms smuggling route to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip via neighboring Egypt". How would other countries react if they were constantly on the receiving end of missile attacks from one of their neighbours?
It's an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye, etc, etc, etc. The Israeli people living in and near the illegal settlements physical attack local Palestinian settlers, burn their crops and threaten murder. The Israeli government have destroyed Palestinian homes and killed Palestinian men, women and children. The Israeli government, a violent nuclear armed regime sends clear and deliberate threats to its neighbours. The Israeli secret service have been blamed for the murders of people all over the world.

You can say exactly the same for Hezbollah and Hamas.

discusdave

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Thursday 25th October 2012
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Puggit said:
tuffer said:
I wonder what route they took to get there? Saw some previous rumuors that KSA would allow safe passage to Israeli jets to bomb Iran.
I suspect low of the Sinai peninsular?
maybe us carriers ? in the gulf of Aden ?

hesnotthemessiah

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205 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Regiment said:
It's an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye, etc, etc, etc. The Israeli people living in and near the illegal settlements physical attack local Palestinian settlers, burn their crops and threaten murder. The Israeli government have destroyed Palestinian homes and killed Palestinian men, women and children. The Israeli government, a violent nuclear armed regime sends clear and deliberate threats to its neighbours. The Israeli secret service have been blamed for the murders of people all over the world.

You can say exactly the same for Hezbollah and Hamas.
How do you know this?

Source please!

kuzushi

226 posts

143 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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Regiment said:
kuzushi said:
Could there not be a justifiable self-defence angle here?
Hamas keep lobbing missiles at Israel. The article says that the Sudan "is used as an arms smuggling route to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip via neighboring Egypt". How would other countries react if they were constantly on the receiving end of missile attacks from one of their neighbours?
It's an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye, etc, etc, etc. The Israeli people living in and near the illegal settlements physical attack local Palestinian settlers, burn their crops and threaten murder. The Israeli government have destroyed Palestinian homes and killed Palestinian men, women and children. The Israeli government, a violent nuclear armed regime sends clear and deliberate threats to its neighbours. The Israeli secret service have been blamed for the murders of people all over the world.

You can say exactly the same for Hezbollah and Hamas.
But the Israelis don't have any settlements, legal or illegal, in Gaza any more. They agreed to pull out completely as some sort of peace deal several years ago.

kuzushi

226 posts

143 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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kuzushi said:
But the Israelis don't have any settlements, legal or illegal, in Gaza any more. They agreed to pull out completely as some sort of peace deal several years ago.
Actually, looking it up it seems it was a unilateral move by the Israelis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%27s_unilateral...

MX7

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175 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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A government guilty of genocide has lost an arms factory? Shocking.

rolleyes

DJRC

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237 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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discusdave said:
THIS is a state sponsored terrorist act!

pure and simple.

And?

discusdave

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Thursday 25th October 2012
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DJRC said:
discusdave said:
THIS is a state sponsored terrorist act!

pure and simple.

And?
and they should be abandoned by the west to there fate..

tuffer

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268 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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discusdave said:
Puggit said:
tuffer said:
I wonder what route they took to get there? Saw some previous rumuors that KSA would allow safe passage to Israeli jets to bomb Iran.
I suspect low of the Sinai peninsular?
maybe us carriers ? in the gulf of Aden ?
Seriously, using what aircraft and experience? As far as I am aware Israel does not have an aircraft carrier, you can't just turn up with a couple of F16's and park them on the deck and I doubt they used Helicopters.

Luftgekuhlt

853 posts

191 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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tuffer said:
Seriously, using what aircraft and experience? As far as I am aware Israel does not have an aircraft carrier, you can't just turn up with a couple of F16's and park them on the deck and I doubt they used Helicopters.
I wouldn't bother, I can hear the tinfoil rustling from here.

discusdave

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Thursday 25th October 2012
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no it was an idea..

DJRC

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Thursday 25th October 2012
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discusdave said:
DJRC said:
discusdave said:
THIS is a state sponsored terrorist act!

pure and simple.

And?
and they should be abandoned by the west to there fate..
Why? They are our ally, Sudan isnt. Tough st to the Sudanese. Life's a bh, get used to it.

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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DJRC said:
discusdave said:
DJRC said:
discusdave said:
THIS is a state sponsored terrorist act!

pure and simple.

And?
and they should be abandoned by the west to there fate..
Why? They are our ally, Sudan isnt. Tough st to the Sudanese. Life's a bh, get used to it.
Cause he believes everything that's written in the Daily Wail.

I have no axe to grind either way but look at it another way. They're (give or take) 3m Jews/Israelis surrounded by (give or take) 300m Muslims/Arabs.....every single one of them wants their annihilation.

The Palestinians (et al) don't want peace, that's the last thing they want. Every deal that's ever been brokered its never enough, every concession given is never enough. They don't want Israel to exist period.

Leave them to their fate! Read up on stuff instead of just following popular opinion. I think you'll find you might change your mind somewhat.

kuzushi

226 posts

143 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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hesnotthemessiah said:
I have no axe to grind either way but look at it another way. They're (give or take) 3m Jews/Israelis surrounded by (give or take) 300m Muslims/Arabs.....every single one of them wants their annihilation.

The Palestinians (et al) don't want peace, that's the last thing they want. Every deal that's ever been brokered its never enough, every concession given is never enough. They don't want Israel to exist period.
There are how many muslim Arab nations? About 20.
There are how many Jewish nations? Just one.

The Palestinians could easily be absorbed into any of the many Arab nations that exist, but the Arab league refuses to allow them to become citizens of any other Arab country purely so that they can remain a thorn in Israel's side and keep the pressure up on Israel.