Anyone know this 996 Turbo?

Anyone know this 996 Turbo?

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Funk

Original Poster:

26,270 posts

209 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Colleague of mine is looking at this tomorrow. Says it's been CAT C'd in 2009. Wondered whether anyone on here knows the car and its history?

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

Reg is R44 HGT





Any feedback greatly appreciated!

Luke.

10,991 posts

250 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Yikes.

Crimp a Length!

5,697 posts

223 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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CAT C with all that power?

Run like Fck.

The End.

EvoSlayer

1,952 posts

185 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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^^^^^This

Pay the extra and buy a straight one.

marky911

4,417 posts

219 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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^^^^^^ This again.

Cat C means it's had a hard old hit.

Yell_M3

389 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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There's a reason it's 17K. And that's cos the owner is being hopefull someone will buy his scrap.

thegoose

8,075 posts

210 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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The car could have been 9 years old when it was written off so there's every chance it wasn't as bad a crash as an unrecorded, repaired-by-insurance 2 year old car about which you'd have no suspicions if it was on the market 7 years later. At least in this case you know it's had a bump which will make you inspect and scrutinise the car more thoroughly - it could be a really decent car ( but like any other could be well worth avoiding) and if so may represent great value.

I had a BMW recently (admittedly a rather old one and not worth a fat lot) that had a small bump where a neighbour reversed into the offside front corner - an insurance repair would have dictated new wing, bumper, fog light, painting it all together with the bonnet. The owner negotiated to keep the cAr and take a cash settlement but it was the classified as a Cat C car, when nothing ever affected hownit drove & to make it sufficiently presentable he just straightened it out a bit and didn't replace the cracked fog light.

Zyp

14,696 posts

189 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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That drivers seat has seen a fair few denim jeans sitting on it by the look of it.

The more I look at it the more Barried it appears....


Edited by Zyp on Friday 2nd November 15:33

RatBoy M3CSL

1,490 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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..what a mess...!

stewart rix

225 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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I wonder if the carbon roof came about as a result of replacing damage...

Spider1

20 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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I was always taught that if I didn't have anything nice to say to not say anything... So.... " "

AshleyPatience

286 posts

175 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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This thread is about whether anyone knows the history of the car, which is crucial when buying Cat C; not about personal taste.

I really dont like 997 wheels on 996's, or the colour, but if this guy likes it then each to their own.

With high value cars, Cat C damage is usually supported by a file with photos showing the damage and sometimes the repair process so that a future buyer can be re-assured as to the extent of the damage. I have previously owned Cat C cars and sometimes they can be a real bargain if the damage was relatively light as people are put off.

If this car were in original colour and with original wheels / seats, I would've taken a look if in the market.

EvoSlayer

1,952 posts

185 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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I thought a car classed as cat c salvage/repairable, was basically a car that had been deemed by the insurers as damaged beyond economical repair, so a higher value car has probably had a fair old whack. You pays your money and takes your chance.

mudy

874 posts

172 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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I think that (aside from the interior) the car looks awesome - not dated like many 996 tt s are beginning to look -

thegoose

8,075 posts

210 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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EvoSlayer said:
I thought a car classed as cat c salvage/repairable, was basically a car that had been deemed by the insurers as damaged beyond economical repair, so a higher value car has probably had a fair old whack. You pays your money and takes your chance.
That's kind of true but insurers have to consider the cost of waiting for any parts that aren't immediately available (possibly whilst paying for a rental car) and also would only use brand new parts. Personally I can't see a problem with used body parts, which could well be newer than the damaged ones. It may have had a "fair old whack", and it may not, same as any other used car, until it's inspected you won't know for sure.

Err Indoors

909 posts

187 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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mudy said:
I think that (aside from the interior) the car looks awesome - not dated like many 996 tt s are beginning to look -
Eh?
Only difference are the wheels and they are a dogs dinner the late 997 turbo wheels.
Think a standard turbo with standard parts looks far better, subtle is more.

Moosh

1,122 posts

221 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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I would try and find out exactly what work was done. If the chassis was not damaged and it was just body work the car may be a good buy. You will have to investigate to find out more. As these cars are not worth very much compared to the cost of the parts, if it were damage that needed say, new wing, bumper, wheels, brakes, paintwork and a little more, being a Porsche the cost of repair could easily be more than the current value of the car. Would also find out who done the work.

But as already said, there are a lot of 996 turbos out there that are not cat C's

marky911

4,417 posts

219 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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thegoose said:
That's kind of true but insurers have to consider the cost of waiting for any parts that aren't immediately available (possibly whilst paying for a rental car) and also would only use brand new parts. Personally I can't see a problem with used body parts, which could well be newer than the damaged ones. It may have had a "fair old whack", and it may not, same as any other used car, until it's inspected you won't know for sure.
I don't really have a problem with lightly damaged, repaired stuff, if the car was going to be a daily driver eg not that special and if its cheap, but if you're spending on something like a Porsche, I'd want to know it was a good straight car I was riding in.

My mate deals in salvage and honestly, every cat C car I have ever seen has been a hell of a mess. Cat D's sometimes not so, but cat C, not with a barge pole.

As usual though we all have different ideas/standards with regard to the cars we buy, so it's up to the OPs mate to check it out and weigh up the value.

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Check this out VERY carefully if you are considering cruising along the Autobahn at 190+ leptons or anything similar.

I personally wouldnt go anywhere near a car of this performance that has CAT C status. It doesnt make financial sense either.

Spend an extra 5k and get a decent one that will be worth more at selling time.

Err Indoors

909 posts

187 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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mollytherocker said:
Check this out VERY carefully if you are considering cruising along the Autobahn at 190+ leptons or anything similar.

I personally wouldnt go anywhere near a car of this performance that has CAT C status. It doesnt make financial sense either.

Spend an extra 5k and get a decent one that will be worth more at selling time.
Yeah spend another 5k to get one that is straight, then realise it needs 8k spending on it mechanically