Elite: Dangerous

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Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Guvernator said:
No such thing as resilient systems in the gaming world? The gaming world run there games on server farms, just like any other large organisation. I work in the IT industry and put these kinds of things together. I think my banking clients would find it very amusing if I told them I had to take their systems down for a few hours every few weeks to patch the servers. This technology has been available for quite a while too. It's very easy to build almost 100% uptime into any system, the industry standard is 5 nines (99.999%) which is near as dammit to 100% that it doesn't make a difference.

Peak demand\high load making servers slow\unreliable is also another unforgiveable area considering you can spin extra server capacity up and down as user load dictates in seconds these days. Large online internet companies like Amazon et manage to cope with fluctuating user traffic\load by using this technology.

For an alleged technology led sector, the gaming industry appears to be living in the dark ages sometimes. Rather worrying when with the massive push these days to online only. I also play Destiny, another online only game. It was down for 4 hours the other day, right in the middle of the evening prime playing time "for updates". Very poor to be honest.
The gaming and banking industries are very very different, the way the servers are used the amount of load on the servers is I would imagine very different, patching the server is only part of the challenge often if an exploit is found and needs to be address or a game breaking bug needs to be fixed then both the server side software and the client side software need to be fixed, can that be done while the gamer keeps playing, id imagine thats quite a challenge. It is probably possible to do but as someone else has already said, cost prohibitive. Ohh and destiny, that a pathetic excuse for a game, all that money spent, its a blatent copy of another game but with better graphics, activision the plot years ago with regards games (look at the games they have distributed recently), it doesn't surprise me they are bringing it down at prime time.

Ebiggrin has no distributor so i hold a little more faith in their business practices as they haven't done anything silly as yet.


Business is about profit, server downtime doesnt affect profit in gaming, in the banking industry it I imagine does.

TBH server downtime in gaming seems like a bit of a 1st world problem to me. Its irritating yes but as long as they communicate it well then their shouldnt be a problem, it is a leisure activity after all.

Edited by Foliage on Saturday 22 November 10:52

motorizer

1,498 posts

170 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Well the gamma release is out, finally got my kickstarter cobra explorer.

Servers seem to be under a lot of load, got kicked off a couple of times now....

Baron Greenback

6,961 posts

149 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Aye problems of gamma patch on a saturday server overloaded! Been good fun so far! Not touched the free Eagle yet!

motorizer

1,498 posts

170 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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I have no idea where my free eagle even is, I spawned in the middle of nowhere and I haven't even seen a proper station with shipyard and outfitting yet, just little outposts with limited facilities

Baron Greenback

6,961 posts

149 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Yah and dam Sol is so far away! 40k credits atm, keep on trucking!

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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motorizer said:
I have no idea where my free eagle even is, I spawned in the middle of nowhere and I haven't even seen a proper station with shipyard and outfitting yet, just little outposts with limited facilities
Look in shipyard under ship locations, mines friggin miles away.

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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how do i get my other free ship? for being in beta?

motorizer

1,498 posts

170 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Foliage said:
motorizer said:
I have no idea where my free eagle even is, I spawned in the middle of nowhere and I haven't even seen a proper station with shipyard and outfitting yet, just little outposts with limited facilities
Look in shipyard under ship locations, mines friggin miles away.
I knew that, it's taken me ages to find a shipyard, found one now, eagle is 113 light years away, looks like it can stay there....
Apparently they've patched it now, if you start a new game the eagle is in the same system you start in, but not necessarily the same station.

I've flown the eagle loads in beta anyway, whereas I deliberately avoided the cobra up till now because I knew I had the kickstarter one, so i was trying the other ships.

Edited by motorizer on Saturday 22 November 16:53

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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motorizer said:
I knew that, it's taken me ages to find a shipyard, found one now, eagle is 113 light years away, looks like it can stay there....
Apparently they've patched it now, if you start a new game the eagle is in the same system you start in, but not necessarily the same station.

I've flown the eagle loads in beta anyway, whereas I deliberately avoided the cobra up till now because I knew I had the kickstarter one, so i was trying the other ships.

Edited by motorizer on Saturday 22 November 16:53
How did you get your cobra? i was sure the beta players should have got another free ship in addition to the cobra.

motorizer

1,498 posts

170 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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The cobra was only available if you backed in kickstarter at a high enough level, the free ship all preorders get is the eagle, which should be stored somewhere, look in ship locations in a shipyard as mentioned above.

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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motorizer said:
The cobra was only available if you backed in kickstarter at a high enough level, the free ship all preorders get is the eagle, which should be stored somewhere, look in ship locations in a shipyard as mentioned above.
http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=cea4f4cd56


Newsletter 49 said:
Being a Beta backer is the only way you will be able to play Elite: Dangerous until 16th December. In addition to that and the other existing Beta benefits such as Mercenary Edition and automatic permit to visit Sol, today we are also announcing:
25% off in-game ship insurance for life to all our Beta backers
free access to one of the 5 new ships when it’s released!
as a ‘thank you’ for all their help.

motorizer

1,498 posts

170 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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The 5 new ships aren't in game yet, they are post release, you will get one when they add them.
That statement isn't very clear. Mind you, none of their statements are very clear, that's why they keep stirring up trouble on the forums...

Edited by motorizer on Saturday 22 November 17:03

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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motorizer said:
The 5 new ships aren't in game yet, they are post release, you will get one when they add them.
AHHHHHHhhhhh bugger, that makes sense then

Baron Greenback

6,961 posts

149 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Foliage said:
motorizer said:
The 5 new ships aren't in game yet, they are post release, you will get one when they add them.
AHHHHHHhhhhh bugger, that makes sense then
Dam just found a ship yard and my eagle I flew past the station ages ago! Tempted to go back there and sale it to get cash to save for a Cobra!

weyland yutani

1,410 posts

163 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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According to Braben, those who pre-ordered can start playing the single player tutorials from tomorrow, beta access isn't required smile Gives us plenty of time to configure things and get to grips with the controls and mechanics. Looking forward to this now.

Edited by weyland yutani on Tuesday 25th November 19:22

Bullett

10,873 posts

183 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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I got the Gamma test email earlier today. I didn't pay for beta but I was a Kickstarter backer.
I now don't have a hotas and won't get one until December.

Bugger.

grenpayne

1,976 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Bullett said:
I got the Gamma test email earlier today. I didn't pay for beta but I was a Kickstarter backer.
I now don't have a hotas and won't get one until December.

Bugger.
I'm in same situation ie a backer but didn't pay for the beta phase so I was surprised when the email came through. I had a go last night at docking and undocking and have to say the game looks superb. Shame my docking skills weren't quite up to scratch biggrin

I take it we can't play the game in gamma though just being a backer?

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Im playing gamma, your not missing much. The game is far from finished, id be surprised if they managed to get everything done and added before launch.

grenpayne

1,976 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Thnaks Foliage, I literally had 5 minutes to have a quick peek at it last night and visually (across my triple screens at 5760 x 1080 biggrin ) it looked lovely. I take it that when the game goes live on 16th December the world is 'reset' ie the progress the beta and gamma gamers have made doesn't continue?

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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The flight sim side of the game is awesome, but there is little to no content atm, I actually now hope they wipe on the 16th December, there is so much that needs improving so it meets the expectations of the player base, there are numerous threads on the forums about it.