What crappy personalised plates have you seen recently?
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Jaguar steve said:
There's a K1M DR in Danbury. No surprise that it's on a Mercedes and no, she's not actualy a doctor. K1M works in one of the facial refurbishment medical asthetics clinics so popular with the Essex Slapperati.
On another note I've spotted:
M4 4GGA on a Mitsubishi L200
N17YLS With the 17n butchered to buggery to read an A? on a Honda S2000
X 3UDE on an RR Sport
raceboy said:
Polynesian said:
X GOLD X on a Bentley- Jaqueline Gold's - CEO of Ann Summers. Not that crappy really!
It is crappy when it should be X60 LDX
A truly horrific and crappy vanity plate.......possibly the ultimate in gold plated crappiness......
Bloke on another forum I use is trying defend this on his missus's car:
" You tell me what law that plate breaks. The actual law. Don't just reply with 'errr.... the spacing is wrong' "
" 'or in a way that makes it difficult to read the registration number'
So because the font and sizing are fine, and it appears that ANPR cams can read it.......... the issue is? "
It's difficult, for some people..
" You tell me what law that plate breaks. The actual law. Don't just reply with 'errr.... the spacing is wrong' "
" 'or in a way that makes it difficult to read the registration number'
So because the font and sizing are fine, and it appears that ANPR cams can read it.......... the issue is? "
It's difficult, for some people..
smithyithy said:
Bloke on another forum I use is trying defend this on his missus's car:
" You tell me what law that plate breaks. The actual law. Don't just reply with 'errr.... the spacing is wrong' "
" 'or in a way that makes it difficult to read the registration number'
So because the font and sizing are fine, and it appears that ANPR cams can read it.......... the issue is? "
It's difficult, for some people..
You're absolutely right, the law is the law. " You tell me what law that plate breaks. The actual law. Don't just reply with 'errr.... the spacing is wrong' "
" 'or in a way that makes it difficult to read the registration number'
So because the font and sizing are fine, and it appears that ANPR cams can read it.......... the issue is? "
It's difficult, for some people..
However, rationally, I think the spacing shouldn't be an issue, I know it is right now, but the government did a study into relaxing rules on spacing. I believe it was signed off but vetoed by Europe. When spacing makes the plate more memorable, I think it's a good thing - people would remember SB SAND B easier than SB54 NDB.
Though again, I accept that at the moment it's illegal to space as above,
Pork said:
smithyithy said:
Bloke on another forum I use is trying defend this on his missus's car:
" You tell me what law that plate breaks. The actual law. Don't just reply with 'errr.... the spacing is wrong' "
" 'or in a way that makes it difficult to read the registration number'
So because the font and sizing are fine, and it appears that ANPR cams can read it.......... the issue is? "
It's difficult, for some people..
You're absolutely right, the law is the law. " You tell me what law that plate breaks. The actual law. Don't just reply with 'errr.... the spacing is wrong' "
" 'or in a way that makes it difficult to read the registration number'
So because the font and sizing are fine, and it appears that ANPR cams can read it.......... the issue is? "
It's difficult, for some people..
However, rationally, I think the spacing shouldn't be an issue, I know it is right now, but the government did a study into relaxing rules on spacing. I believe it was signed off but vetoed by Europe. When spacing makes the plate more memorable, I think it's a good thing - people would remember SB SAND B easier than SB54 NDB.
Though again, I accept that at the moment it's illegal to space as above,
No excuse that it's easier to remember either. If it went to court any defence council worth his five grand a day would make mincemeat of a witness stating the numberplate was somthing like sand or sand b and sieze on that as proof of a lack of credibility as that's actually nothing like my clients vehicle registration.
Jaguar steve said:
No excuse that it's easier to remember either. If it went to court any defence council worth his five grand a day would make mincemeat of a witness stating the numberplate was somthing like sand or sand b and sieze on that as proof of a lack of credibility as that's actually nothing like my clients vehicle registration.
That's exactly the problem - when it's like this, normal people will remember what they think it looked like, the police will have to interpret that into an actual plate, and the defence will kick off and quote the other things it could have been, and I want to shout "reasonable doubt" but not sure if that applies there.How many times have we seen plates posted on here by people who, by their very presence on PH, have an interest in cars that suggests they might know more than the average passer-by, yet still cannot work out what the plate actually was?
That's a really good point actually - even without bodging letters with screw placement, mis-spacing can inadvertently cause the plate to be read as a word, and in the case above, numbers as letters.
A wild hypothetical - but imagine a hit and run, and the witnesses only being able to quote what they read the plate as, rather than what it actually was..
A wild hypothetical - but imagine a hit and run, and the witnesses only being able to quote what they read the plate as, rather than what it actually was..
smithyithy said:
That's a really good point actually - even without bodging letters with screw placement, mis-spacing can inadvertently cause the plate to be read as a word, and in the case above, numbers as letters.
A wild hypothetical - but imagine a hit and run, and the witnesses only being able to quote what they read the plate as, rather than what it actually was..
Making plates read as words or substituting letters for numbers isn't inadvertent - it's exactly what Chavplaters intend. You have to bypass authorised numberplate suppliers who are obliged to have sight of the official DVLA letter as evidence of your entitlement to have a plate made up in the first place and are also obliged to make that plate in a 100% legal format. The only way to obtain an illegally mispaced plate is go online, ignore all the legal reminders about the correct format on suppliers websites and purchase a Showplate that's clearly categorised as not legal for use on the road.A wild hypothetical - but imagine a hit and run, and the witnesses only being able to quote what they read the plate as, rather than what it actually was..
I had to do Jury Service a few years ago. One case was a charge of dangerous driving by an individual who'd driven at speed with another individual on the bonnet of his car. It was pitch dark and raining at the time. The driver escaped the scene and was only able to be identifed and traced by his vehicle registration. If there'd been any doubt about that in the witnesses mind council would have exploited that to the max with the potential outcome of the driver would be found innocent.
Edited by Jaguar steve on Friday 27th March 13:33
Jaguar steve said:
smithyithy said:
That's a really good point actually - even without bodging letters with screw placement, mis-spacing can inadvertently cause the plate to be read as a word, and in the case above, numbers as letters.
A wild hypothetical - but imagine a hit and run, and the witnesses only being able to quote what they read the plate as, rather than what it actually was..
Making plates read as words or substituting letters for numbers isn't inadvertent - it's exactly what Chavplaters intend. You have to bypass authorised numberplate suppliers who are obliged to have sight of the official DVLA letter as evidence of your entitlement to have a plate made up in the first place and are also obliged to make that plate in a 100% legal format. The only way to obtain an illegally mispaced plate is go online, ignore all the legal reminders about the correct format on suppliers websites and purchase a Showplate that's clearly categorised as not legal for use on the road.A wild hypothetical - but imagine a hit and run, and the witnesses only being able to quote what they read the plate as, rather than what it actually was..
I had to do Jury Service a few years ago. One case was a charge of dangerous driving by an individual who'd driven at speed with another individual on the bonnet of his car. It was pitch dark and raining at the time. The driver escaped the scene and was only able to be identifed and traced by his vehicle registration. If there'd been any doubt about that in the witnesses mind council would have exploited that to the max with the potential outcome of the driver would be found innocent.
Edited by Jaguar steve on Friday 27th March 13:33
The ability of deliberate lawbreakers who intentionally flout the law to find some pathetic excuse whereby it is not their fault is typical of the modern 'Not me Guv`! excuses proffered widely in such circumstances.
The law requires specific adherence to the format and lettering of registration plates for that reason. Deliberately seeking to escape the consequence's of intentional criminality is in itself a further crime.
It is pretty clear from the unreadable state of many of the butchered plates on here that these individuals have no respect for the law. This is not an understandable mistake through an inadvertant lack of concentration or error. Nor a failure to spot a hazard in very busy traffic. It is deliberate law breaking.
Trying to pretend it is anything else is laughable nonsense. I regret the extent of these increasing offences because as Jaguar steve rightly says, the number plates of cars are paramount in enabling identication. For that reason this should be stopped?
te (y)Steffan said:
Jaguar steve said:
smithyithy said:
That's a really good point actually - even without bodging letters with screw placement, mis-spacing can inadvertently cause the plate to be read as a word, and in the case above, numbers as letters.
A wild hypothetical - but imagine a hit and run, and the witnesses only being able to quote what they read the plate as, rather than what it actually was..
Making plates read as words or substituting letters for numbers isn't inadvertent - it's exactly what Chavplaters intend. You have to bypass authorised numberplate suppliers who are obliged to have sight of the official DVLA letter as evidence of your entitlement to have a plate made up in the first place and are also obliged to make that plate in a 100% legal format. The only way to obtain an illegally mispaced plate is go online, ignore all the legal reminders about the correct format on suppliers websites and purchase a Showplate that's clearly categorised as not legal for use on the road.A wild hypothetical - but imagine a hit and run, and the witnesses only being able to quote what they read the plate as, rather than what it actually was..
I had to do Jury Service a few years ago. One case was a charge of dangerous driving by an individual who'd driven at speed with another individual on the bonnet of his car. It was pitch dark and raining at the time. The driver escaped the scene and was only able to be identifed and traced by his vehicle registration. If there'd been any doubt about that in the witnesses mind council would have exploited that to the max with the potential outcome of the driver would be found innocent.
Edited by Jaguar steve on Friday 27th March 13:33
The ability of deliberate lawbreakers who intentionally flout the law to find some pathetic excuse whereby it is not their fault is typical of the modern 'Not me Guv`! excuses proffered widely in such circumstances.
The law requires specific adherence to the format and lettering of registration plates for that reason. Deliberately seeking to escape the consequence's of intentional criminality is in itself a further crime.
It is pretty clear from the unreadable state of many of the butchered plates on here that these individuals have no respect for the law. This is not an understandable mistake through an inadvertant lack of concentration or error. Nor a failure to spot a hazard in very busy traffic. It is deliberate law breaking.
Trying to pretend it is anything else is laughable nonsense. I regret the extent of these increasing offences because as Jaguar steve rightly says, the number plates of cars are paramount in enabling identication. For that reason this should be stopped?
If you chose to misrepresent your passport or NI number or bank details to gain some advantage for yourself then you'd quickly be waist deep in some seriously brown stuff. £2Bn and counting of sales by doing just the same in many cases with with car registrations since the DVLA started flogging the wretched things in the 90's says it won't be 'tho.
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