Ginetta G20 - Can it be road registered?

Ginetta G20 - Can it be road registered?

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Mark B

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1,621 posts

264 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Hi all, I haven't been a kit car owner for many years, but I am seriously considering selling my Duratec Elise S1 and like the G20 race cars. I know they did a road car variant, does anyone know if the race cars can be road registered?

From my old experience of the SVA test, I would think the cars would be OK, with items such as horn, etc fitted. May even need a rewire for all sundry items such as indicators etc, I haven't got that far to understand them yet.

Steve_D

13,737 posts

257 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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I don't know the vehicle but anything is possible if you are prepared to throw enough time and money at it.
The IVA manual is available online (follow link at top of this section) but is one monster read.
Your problems will likely be.
Noise
Emissions
Proving ownership of all the parts.
Sharp edges
Lighting
Instruments

May not be worth the effort.

Steve

cps13

253 posts

181 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Steve_D said:
Proving ownership of all the parts.


Steve
What do you mean by this?

Blackpuddin

16,409 posts

204 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Probs quickest to ask Ginetta?

Steve_D

13,737 posts

257 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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cps13 said:
Steve_D said:
Proving ownership of all the parts.


Steve
What do you mean by this?
For registration (not IVA) they will want to see reciepts for all the parts and in particular the engine.
You will only have a receipt for the race car with no evidence that the engine (or any of the other parts for that matter) had not been stolen in order to build it.

Steve

cps13

253 posts

181 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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What happens if you have no recipet for the engine, like me?! :S

g20v6

118 posts

202 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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'm not 100% but if it is the original 1.8 zetec engine that came with the car it would have been a new crate engine as supplied from ginetta, it will not have an engine number. Well one of my friends that used to take part in the series when it was first introduced didn't have an engine number.

Steve_D

13,737 posts

257 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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cps13 said:
What happens if you have no recipet for the engine, like me?! :S
You will have a rather awkward conversation with DVLA to convince them the engine is not stolen and that you are the legitimate owner.

Steve

Mark B

Original Poster:

1,621 posts

264 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Thanks all, not too fussed about items such as receipts for engines as I would update to a 2.0L Zetec or even Duratec if the chassis would accomodate it exhaust wise. Cheers all, Mark

jamesG20V6

873 posts

256 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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It was designed to pass SVA, so you shouldn't have too many issues, I put a road going car through a few years ago and it was straight forward. You would need to look carefully at the roll cage I expect and how the interior has gone together, most of the race cars have fuel and brake lines inside the car for obvious reasons and quick release bonnet catches etc which probably wouldn't pass, all easy stuff to fix. Lights are easy, and I know some of the race cars were built with a full road car loom and just not connected up,

foggy

1,156 posts

281 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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Did you proceed any further with the G20 road car plan OP?

I've been idly thinking along the same lines myself - as a used racer they look excellent value if it can be done with relative ease. Anybody have any idea of how accomodating they'd be of a 6'4" 13st frame with 34" legs?

PaulKemp

979 posts

144 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Fuel and brake inside the car is fine most kit cars do this
The main consideration is E or BS marked fuel pipes if rubber or braided, copper or steel fuel is ok unmarked.
P clip spacing to be 300mm or less
You are better off taking this topic to Locostbuilders forum where you will get much less speculation and more indepth real world knowledge of IVA (VOSA) and registration (DVLA)

Paul.B

3,937 posts

263 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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PaulKemp said:
You are better off taking this topic to Locostbuilders forum where you will get much less speculation and more indepth real world knowledge of IVA (VOSA) and registration (DVLA)
What makes you think the info posted in here is speculative and not real world?

bodgit

31 posts

185 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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another thing to keep in mind is all recipes in your name i fell fowl of this , you can no longer submit a part built kit for iva you must be the soul builder from start to finish make sure you are in a few photos and you have not got a to profesional looking workshop as they can throw that at you as in building cars for a trade, i had to submit a iva form at a later date and i never got my recipets back after first application and allways take photocopys

Fastpedeller

3,848 posts

145 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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bodgit said:
another thing to keep in mind is all recipes in your name i fell fowl of this , you can no longer submit a part built kit for iva you must be the soul builder from start to finish make sure you are in a few photos and you have not got a to profesional looking workshop as they can throw that at you as in building cars for a trade, i had to submit a iva form at a later date and i never got my recipets back after first application and allways take photocopys
Don't make you incorrect here, but it does seem a very draconian approach. If someone has completed a part-built there is no reason to suspect it is not amateur. They would be better off directing their efforts towards some of the trade who clock, or the traders who make out they are private sellers of cars - as we (kit car builders) know there is little (if any) profit from making kit cars apart from the joy of building/owning something you've made yourself.

newforold

5 posts

134 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Any update on this? I have the same quandry about whether I could road-register a G20. In my case it is to make it eligible for a 'road-car' class.

Cheers

Turn7

23,502 posts

220 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Intersting thread. I always fancied one of the teens T Cars for a track day warrior......

Tube frame and all that...

LLantrisant

995 posts

158 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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G20 race cars do have a windscreen made of plastic...dont know if this would be ok for road use.


idea using a v5c of a G26 would be a solution too hehe

Edited by LLantrisant on Wednesday 29th October 20:13